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    Player Vagrua's Avatar
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    dev1069 Phantom Roll Effect Adjustments feedback

    Just thought I'd share my opinions on the roll adjustments. By all means, posts what you also think of them. My views:

    Healer's Roll will likely not even be considered in a Corsair's arsenal unless it exceeds the current Cure Potency cap of White Mages curing said player with the roll on.

    Gallant's Roll would also need to break the pdt/mdt cap in order to even be considered to me. I can see this roll being extremely useful otherwise for tanks.

    Drachen Roll, I can see being useful for a pet burn party maybe.

    Puppet's Roll, idk what to really think of. It's one of those rolls I could see being useful if Corsair had an ability like Bard's Pianissimo.

    Warlock's Roll is something I still can't really see being used. The boost is just too small to me.

    Beast Roll looks good.

    Choral Roll same as beasts.

    I think you could have pushed Dancer's Roll more, but again that's just me.
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    Player Seha's Avatar
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    Even if healer's roll exceeds cap it's worthless. You need to place it on the dds as it is potency received. There's no reason at all to dump reall dd rolls for that.
    I see gallant as useful for soloing(like dyna or something), but that's it until we get a third roll slot(and even then the best idea in most cases would be to do chaos-tact-miser, or sam).
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    Player Kristal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagrua View Post
    Drachen Roll, I can see being useful for a pet burn party maybe.

    Puppet's Roll, idk what to really think of. It's one of those rolls I could see being useful if Corsair had an ability like Bard's Pianissimo.
    COR always had these rolls, they simply swapped the jobs and increased the effect a bit. I think they did this to actually match the pets to the roll effect. You needed a DRG to properly boost an automaton's magic, or a PUP to boost a DRG's wyvern. Breath attacks are affected by HP (and EMA?), not MAB or MACC as far as I know.
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    "Puppetmaster was our last best hope for peace. It failed.
    Now it's our last best hope.. for victory!"

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    Gallant is a Phalanx effect rather than -DT%, if that makes any difference. It does stack with Phalanx iirc.
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    I will have my revenge!

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    I bet the first thing on everyone's mind when they logged in to look was, "Here somes the miser's nerf."
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    Healer's roll went from niche to absolutely worthless. Kind of sad really.
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    Player heartslaught's Avatar
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    Looking at these values, they seem to be the non supercharged values (looking at the values listed, this is a dead give away). Any chance of seeing the super charged values?
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    Player Huevriel's Avatar
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    COR Lv 75
    Healer's Roll -
    Thank you for making this not apply to dancing. However, was satisfied as MP Healing.

    Gallant's Roll-
    This GREATLY helps solo parry skill ups. Thank you SE for answering my prayers. The fact that this stacks with Phalanx ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwT702zhiRI
    This is my all time favorite part of this COR-date.

    Drachen Roll <--> Puppet Roll
    Smart move. I approve.

    Boosts to other rolls-
    Boosted choral roll is pretty OP. Not complaining though, as I'm sure it's mostly situational and most bandwagon-COR wont use/buy it. Also something I'll use during parry skill ups. (see link above).

    All around. Way to go SE!
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    Just a level 75 COR still trying to cap his skills before venturing into level 76. All that's left is parrying.
    SE please give me a Parry Roll or Parry Bonus Job Trait.
    SE Thank you for the COR update that changes Gallant's Roll. You have indirectly answered my prayers for assistance in Parrying Skillups!! THANK YOU SE. -_-

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    Player Seha's Avatar
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    With the adjustment to healing effects, Healer's roll now makes sense. But still not worth using over dd rolls in 90% of situations.
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    What situations would it be used in?
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