Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Nynja]

When it comes to the first stage of upgrades for relic/mythic/empyrean weapons, this is considered to be the weapon’s complete form and is also the one the developers expect most players can achieve. They don’t want to dangle a carrot in front of everyone saying, “you can make these weapons even more powerful!” and then make it so only small fraction of players achieve this.

Are you sure about that? The math shows that with a set group of 18 people, going every day, you're going to finish one relic per month. It's still going to be a small fraction of players...

You guys actually want the FINAL trial to take only a week? I agree with SE on the amounts shown for V1. V2 is insane though.

With the proposed numbers, its one month per relic per person. So if you and your 5 friends all have 1 relic, thats 6 months to push them all to 99. If you have 2 relics, and your 5 friends all have 1 relic each, thats 7 months to push them all to 99.


20 killshots is still somewhat annoying because you STILL need to have an alliance capable of killing ADL. Despite being lv90 content, theres still a chance to wipe at 99 fully prepared, so you cant exactly go at it with 18 melee looking to upgrade weapons.

To quell the rage, they're going to have to either:
a-Make it kills, not item turn-in
b-make Umbral Marrow / Mulcibar's Scoria drop from additional sources based on difficulty:
Arch Dynamis City boss: 1 Marrow
Arch Mainyu / Arch CC/Antaeus/AB: 3 marrow
Arch Diabolos: 5 marrow
Arch DL: 8 marrow

Tinnin/Sarameya/Khimaira(I forget the name haha): 1 Mulcibar
PW: 5 Mulcibar

[Nervosa]

You guys actually want the FINAL trial to take only a week? I agree with SE on the amounts shown for V1. V2 is insane though.

Not one week, but it shouldnt take almost a year to finish (Stage2) if you're able to brainwash your LS to do your bidding.
It seems dev team is still stuck somewhere in 2003/04, the players and way people play have drastically changed since then.
The game is showing its age, SE bombed on 14 and even WoW is losing people.
SE should listen to the community, realize how asinine things are (not just 99 weapon trials) and stop throwing around the word balance.

[Insaniac]

Just decided I'm done being trolled by these guys. I'm letting my account deactivate at the end of the month. I may come back if they fix it but probably not.

[Washburn]

Just decided I'm done being trolled by these guys. I'm letting my account deactivate at the end of the month. I may come back if they fix it but probably not.

I'm thinking the same. Star Wars looks fun.

I'll quit before i organize 400~ arch DL fights for my LS.

[Alerith]

Now, now, I don't think there's actually any reason to rage-quit over this really. Unless of course not having a 99 is going to absolutely murder you on the inside.

If you don't want to drag anyone out to do this kind of stuff, do what I intend do. Don't do it.

Hell, I'm still sitting on an 85 Almace simply because I'm saving my brews for Azdaja instead of Apademak. But I'm still happy with it and it performs just fine.

[Chriscoffey]

LOL I bet Camate has panic attacks when he post half this information to the English player base. I hope they change it to kill shots but my SE senses tell me otherwise.

[Nervosa]

Now, now, I don't think there's actually any reason to rage-quit over this really. Unless of course not having a 99 is going to absolutely murder you on the inside.

The people that say they are quitting, I doubt it's solely because of this. They're just done with the BS.

[SpankWustler]

LOL I bet Camate has panic attacks when he post half this information to the English player base.

The reason for the Behemoth avatar is so it matches the meteors of information he's dropping. I imagine him like a bombardier as depicted in Catch 22 or M*A*S*H. He looks away, says a little prayer for the people on the receiving end, then presses the Enter key and lets that payload fly.

Except his finger moved when he looked away so it was actually the Shift key, and he has to look again.

[Sparthos]

It's the frustration of the company failing to understand what 'reasonable' means.

20 ADLs per person is not reasonable. Not reasonable by any stretch of the human imagination.

[Kitkat]

Now, now, I don't think there's actually any reason to rage-quit over this really. Unless of course not having a 99 is going to absolutely murder you on the inside.

If you don't want to drag anyone out to do this kind of stuff, do what I intend do. Don't do it.

Hell, I'm still sitting on an 85 Almace simply because I'm saving my brews for Azdaja instead of Apademak. But I'm still happy with it and it performs just fine.

Thing is, this isn't all encompasing. Emps gain base/stat increases yes, but relic and mythic get performance boosters with the upgrades so your argument isn't as valid in comparison. People have been made to jump through more and more hoops to keep a weapon up where it was supposed to be.

Sadly, just like Unctgtg said, I'd much rather just do a ton of WS kills over subjecting 17 others into doing a fight 10/20/60x per weapon. Especially when pertaining to content that is time restricted and requires several lower tier NM kills just to get to the one that drops the item needed.

Gotta agree with insaniac and couple others...moving on is looking more and more worth my time. There is nothing reasonable of item per weapon trials on ADL/PW being as it isn't as accessible as VWNM's...especially when they have virtually nothing anyone wants to entice others into fighting that many for the items.