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    Player Mahoro's Avatar
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    Mahoro
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    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    People aren't exactly lining up for sagasingers here and dynamis is a HUGE opportunity cost. This isn't like missing out on a bc20 or a vw run that probably wouldn't drop anyway. This a cumulative loss of 2 mil+ a person x 17 (not counting the person who gets the drops for relic)
    per run.
    I'm not by any means supporting this trial. I don't relish the idea of farming ADL for a year or two down the road for the relicholders in my LS. But as I said, can't boil everything down to opportunity cost because every event you do in the game where someone is standing around to help someone else out (even during average LS event) can be reduced to a gil amount. It's a non-starter argument. It assumes all 17 people would be farming gil if not for the event. It assumes everyone WOULD have entered Dyna that day if not for the relicholders. It assumes NOBODY is farming currency for the ally simultaneously to building an ADL pop. It assumes people aren't after 1 or more Arch boss drops. Simply put, it assumes way too much. Why limit your gil farming to a 2-hour Dyna event? Why not spend every waking moment online farming bee chips? Quick, the time you are posting while waiting for that VW PUG to gather is time you could be farming Tiger King Hides.

    When drops for sea torques were terrible and people camped Ix'Drg and some of the more time consuming jailers, an entire LS was lucky to have walked away with one virtue or, worse, nothing. Yet it was done. I hate farming sea, yet as a SH in my LS I helped run sea events because people wanted the gear. And yeah, we did it when it was very clear how the chips would fall in the DKP and only one person would walk away with a Torque (or a Novio, or insert-your-own-drop). Yes, I am aware that the difference between farming sea and entering Dyna is that one isn't "giving up" money by entering sea. See paragraph above though.

    Also, GG's points re: HNM camping being a waste of time and product/fun idea are subjective. Objectively, these events were done. We aren't in 2005 here. You are making a value judgment on a known phenomenon that happened years ago. It's a phenomenon I'm glad I wasn't involved in hardcore, but not every shell that camped HNM's would have sold that desired drop to another LS no matter how many manhours you expended to pay its price tag.
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    Last edited by Mahoro; 02-07-2012 at 10:39 AM.