Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
When you spread the cost out over 5 years is it that hard to think it couldn't be done. Or how about the very fact that 5 or 6 years ago people might not have had the families or jobs to take up time they could give to FF11. It did not take a whole LS a year to finish one relic. You have no clue and are just as out of touch with the base as SE.
With what base? The playerbase? I'm part of the playerbase you dimwit. I play the game, I do Dynamis and I did so twice a week for years in old Dynamis and I've witnessed several relics being built in the process, for friends and LS mates. No it's not hard to do if you spread the cost out over five years, but who has done that? Most people, even before Neodynamis, simply spammed Dynamis, sponsored runs or lead runs with their endgame shells for people to finish relics. The other option was to buy currency. Aside from buying or farming, there is no alternative.

What kind of arguments are you making? Jobs, families? Yes, that means less time to play. Which is still way more than enough to get this trial done. 10 Dynamis runs per relic. Is that really too much to ask? I know several relic holders, all of whom are looking forward to their 99 relic in a month or two. Sure, if you're in a badass and very active endgame LS with 30 relics, it may take up to a year (if they're very unlucky) to finish, and again I ask you, is that too much to ask for 30 finished relic weapons? That's not a year of hardcore non-stop gaming, but one year of two-hour long Dynamis runs that will yield 30 of the best weapons in the entire game. And you think that's not good enough?

Sure, I'd love if it was killshots. Hell, I think even 1 killshot is enough to proof that you're able to defeat him, and I definitely wouldn't mind a trial like that either. But the reality is that the currently proposed trial is far from unfair. If you're complaining about this you're just way too spoiled from Abyssea or Neodynamis.

Quote Originally Posted by Soidisant View Post
Apoc was funded by people being stupid (i.e. I bought currency and resold it for more until I had enough to finish. So mostly done AFK)
Ragna was funded by 3 people pooling gil for like 3 weeks (all 3 people got Relics not just me, we just took turns)
Don't get me wrong, that wasn't a jab at you. I used to have over 70M worth of currency, all procured through reselling in bazaars (I was working on a Bravura pre-Abyssea). But that also counts as money. Money and items (and services) are interchangeable, at varying rates. The money you made from reselling to buy more currency has made you stupidly rich (doesn't imply you're stupid, as I said, I was doing the exact same thing), which, in turn, allowed you to buy a relic. And going by what you said in the last two posts you don't seem to have a problem with buying anyway.