You (devs) realize that you've invariably made relics the hardest weapons to upgrade? Camate posted your thought process of mythic > relic > empyrean, when in fact it is empyrean > mythic > relic (mythics may be easier than empyrean with zeni buff). But my point is that relics are so much more difficult than either mythic or empyrean; how could you ever fathom them being easier to upgrade than empyreans? Rift items are an absolute joke to get.

How is it fair that relic users can only farm items for their upgrade 2 hours a day when empyrean users can spam VWNMs all day long? It's almost guaranteed that at least one person out of the 18 will get 1 rift item, and since you seem to have no problem forcing people to lot over a single item (ADL drop), how is this any different from allowing those that receive rift items to give them to a single person until everyone completes their empyrean weapon. Basically what I'm saying is, assuming that only person is receiving the drop (like PW or ADL), empyrean users will only need to kill 20-60 VWNMs for each weapon. The difficulty of this upgrade is so far below relics that you'd have to be delusional to think otherwise.