Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Shadowsong]

This just pretty much sums up why anyone who has played XI will not buy any more Square Enix products for like, ever.
Anyone up for some Tales of Vesperia?

[Elgorian]

Anyone up for some Tales of Vesperia?

Love that game, and majority of tales games. ^^



On-Topic:

REALLY IT SHOULD WORK LIKE THIS THO

[COLOR="#4169e1"]Stage 1 = 20 kills of ADL
Stage 2 = 100 ADL items

So that stage 1 feeds stage 2

I completely agree with this, 100 items may seem a little high though, but the idea is in the right place. Stage 1 should be kills while the harder to complete should be the items themselves.

This way person A) 99 Stage 1 can farm pops and get person B) 95 to come and help out and it's pretty much win/win for both parties.

I think the whole reason people are BS'ing over these trials is.... the items are the exact same for both which is just not right. These relics/mythics/maybe not so much emps, are weapons of power, and the relics/mythics have more background to them through quests etc. maybe give these weapons a bit more depth with some kind of quest or storyline to go through for stage 1? Give our weapons a bit more depth before just jumping into the grind for 1000000000000000 items.

We've been doing these crazy collect X number of item trials since abyssea came out, and honestly we want something new, something unique. We want... new content. As awesome as the ADL is (yeaaaaa......right) what are we really accomplishing by just spamming him over and over and over and over? Are we proving that we're awesome players?! No not really. Maybe after a fight or two, but honestly after the 100th fight it really does just get......boring.

But where I stand on this:

Stage 1: NEEDS SERIOUS REVISIONS on the Relic/Mythic side at least, I don't want the exact same items used for stage 2 to be used for stage 1

Stage 2: Honestly sucks, but hey Stage 2 isn't supposed to be obtainable by "most players"

Might be somewhat redundent but the more people that speak out the better... or at least I'd like to think so.... SE -.-