Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post

... and their thinking is that as long as there are people who have already started collecting these items, it would be best not to change the trial.
Is the number of players who have already started collecting really that high? Is a refund really that hard to issue? Do people seriously get mad when something is altered to be better?

Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
Also, there is quite a difference in between item collection and kills. For item trials, in an 18 person fight, one person will receive an item. Whereas for a trial requirement involving a specific number of kills, in an 18 person fight, all 18 people would receive the kill credit. While it’s not really as simple as multiplying it 18 times, since the basic thinking would be that the kill count should be greater than the number of items, in the event that we were to change the trial requirements from item collection to kills, there is a high possibility that the number would rise significantly.
WTF? No! We both know how this game has been played for the last X number of years. When you have to turn shit in for uber weapons you have to turn A LOT of shit in. Nobody in that 18 person fight wants to be there more than once or twice unless there are other [significant] rewards to be had. Just lower the fucking requirements already.

Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
Currently since we are only looking into devising the appropriate number of items to collect, I am not going to be able to tell you an estimate of how many kills it would take, but please know that there would most likely be a huge gap between the numbers.
Why would there be a huge gap? What the hell? Do the devs not see these 40+ page threads about how people are tired of putting in more work for less results?