Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Catsby]

... and their thinking is that as long as there are people who have already started collecting these items, it would be best not to change the trial.

Is the number of players who have already started collecting really that high? Is a refund really that hard to issue? Do people seriously get mad when something is altered to be better?

Also, there is quite a difference in between item collection and kills. For item trials, in an 18 person fight, one person will receive an item. Whereas for a trial requirement involving a specific number of kills, in an 18 person fight, all 18 people would receive the kill credit. While it’s not really as simple as multiplying it 18 times, since the basic thinking would be that the kill count should be greater than the number of items, in the event that we were to change the trial requirements from item collection to kills, there is a high possibility that the number would rise significantly.

WTF? No! We both know how this game has been played for the last X number of years. When you have to turn shit in for uber weapons you have to turn A LOT of shit in. Nobody in that 18 person fight wants to be there more than once or twice unless there are other [significant] rewards to be had. Just lower the fucking requirements already.

Currently since we are only looking into devising the appropriate number of items to collect, I am not going to be able to tell you an estimate of how many kills it would take, but please know that there would most likely be a huge gap between the numbers.

Why would there be a huge gap? What the hell? Do the devs not see these 40+ page threads about how people are tired of putting in more work for less results?

[Nynja]

Is the number of players who have already started collecting really that high? Is a refund really that hard to issue? Do people seriously get mad when something is altered to be better?

Theres no need to refund...that would be admitting that no ones going to upgrade a stage 2 99 relic

[Vold]

Why would there be a huge gap? What the hell? Do the devs not see these 40+ page threads about how people are tired of putting in more work for less results?

That's their answer to everything. SE knows that it'll take people a long time to finish this trial. They WANT it. Otherwise they wouldn't be spewing about having a kill trial being multiplied over drops. Nevermind that getting just 20 kills would take how long for the average relic holder? I don't even want to think about it. So what would they chose? 50 kills? 100 kills? Whatever they think will match the amount of effort to get stage 1 with ADL drops. Are they thinking 1 out of 18 kills? 18 people alliance, 1 per drop every kill? So like, hold on let me do the math on that... oh ok, 360 kills. Yeah.

Lolololololololololololololol. I'm so past the rage stage and am into the laughter stage. This trolling is pretty epic. Hit it, Rick!

Aww don't worry my fellow Japanese brothers and sisters, I didn't forget about you! Hit it, Japanese Rick!

[Washburn]

That's their answer to everything. SE knows that it'll take people a long time to finish this trial. They WANT it. Otherwise they wouldn't be spewing about having a kill trial being multiplied over drops. Nevermind that getting just 20 kills would take how long for the average relic holder? I don't even want to think about it. So what would they chose? 50 kills? 100 kills? Whatever they think will match the amount of effort to get stage 1 with ADL drops. Are they thinking 1 out of 18 kills? 18 people alliance, 1 per drop every kill? So like, hold on let me do the math on that... oh ok, 360 kills. Yeah.

Lolololololololololololololol. I'm so past the rage stage and am into the laughter stage. This trolling is pretty epic. Hit it, Rick!

Aww don't worry my fellow Japanese brothers and sisters, I didn't forget about you! Hit it, Japanese Rick!

i cant believe i fell for that rick roll....