Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Mahoro]

1-3 mil is 1-3 mil. If I go to dynamis, that is how much I am earning. Making it an LS event doesn't change that.

Fair terms.... You pay everyone 1-3 mil per ADL run.

If your theory about everybody needing it and helping out etc is correct, you should get your ~billion gil back in no time by helping out your LS mates right? It sounds good in your head, but would you bet your gil on it? If your theory is sound, all that gil will come back right?

Nope, because your opportunity cost theory doesn't apply to 100% of the people attending that LS event. Some will be relicholders who don't need to farm the 1-3 mill anymore. Some will be people who don't want a Relic/Mythic and so have no need to step into Dynamis to farm gil. Some will be people who want the Arch Boss drops in Xarca or other zones. Some people only log into the game for 3-4 hours a day, and on those nights they DO have LS events they don't do anything else so they don't mind using their Dynamis time because it would just go wasted anyway.

For all of the above people, the opportunity cost you cite is replaced by other drops or DKP, just as it is with ANY event someone attends in-game (i.e., just about everything you do in-game could be "replaced" by something in which you farm gil, including talking to people). As for the people who do farm 1-3 mill every day who skip an LS event, in the context of a large LS they likely won't find any help later on when their Relic is stuck at 95 for various reasons depending on shell policies or member temperament. in any event, a large LS won't spam Dyna. It would likely be an event mixed in under normal rotation with VW, WoE, Legion, Einherjar, etc., perhaps done 2-4 times a month or so.

[FrankReynolds]

. Some will be relicholders who don't need to farm the 1-3 mill anymore.

It will still be 2 hours that they could have spent making gil/gear etc. I dare say that these people know quite well the value of their time.

Some will be people who don't want a Relic/Mythic and so have no need to step into Dynamis to farm gil.

Then they probably won't do it for nothing.

Some will be people who want the Arch Boss drops in Xarca or other zones. For those people, the opportunity cost you cite is replaced by other drops or DKP.

These are not highly sought after. I wouldn't count on it.

As for the people who do farm 1-3 mill every day who skip, in the context of a large LS, at best they likely won't find any help later on when their Relic is 99. in any event, a large LS won't spam Dyna, it would likely be an event 2-4 times a month.

Regardless of how often you do it, or who you do it with, if you do an event that typically pays a bunch of cash and you don't pay anyone, they won't do it.

Just because a guy works as a plumber doesn't mean he will mow your lawn for free.

The opportunity cost theory applies to 100% of the people who have entered dynamis. Any time you enter dynamis, you have the option to either spend that time making money, or not making money.

[Mahoro]

It will still be 2 hours that they could have spent making gil/gear etc. I dare say that these people know quite well the value of their time.

Then they won't get their own relics to 99, per my post regarding LS policies or member temperament. It's cutting your nose off to spite your face, is it not? Also, it's possible some people stop farming the 1-3 mill once they obtain their Relic/Mythic, because these (and I suppose HMPs/Riftitems) are the only reason left in-game to HAVE hundreds of millions of gil.

Then they probably won't do it for nothing.

Read my post again. They aren't doing it for nothing.

These are not highly sought after. I wouldn't count on it.

Oneiros Grip, Avesta Bangles, Tjukurrpa Belt, and other Arch Boss drops are highly sought after by some people. In the context of a large LS, any Arch Boss event would rotate those events in.

Regardless of how often you do it, or who you do it with, if you do an event that typically pays a bunch of cash and you don't pay anyone, they won't do it.

They would, if you can replace that opportunity cost per my post. Not everything boils down to 1-3 mill, else nobody would ever do any LS events when they can just farm gil.

Keep in mind, I'm supportive of revising the trial because SE deliberately misled a majority of the playerbase with their proclamations regarding this trial. The point of my post is to illustrate the only feasible way the trial CAN be achieved, and how I would personally do it as one of the leaders of a large LS. The trial is actually quite flawed, because even in a large LS that does Dyna-Xarc 2-3 times a month, that means it will take years for every relic in a shell to be upgraded. Sadly, SE appears to only want a small percentage of Relics reach 99.