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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Its not so much the Quantity that BS Camate, its the fact that Arch Dynamis Lord is a fight that boils down to Dumbluck and a proverbial "Door A or Door B" Type Fight, and Even if you just needed 1 per relic to finish, Its still crap because of the shear amount of people you need for the fight.

    Most of them likely Relic Holders as well.

    So if you can pass on one thing to the Dev team Camate, let it be this, Please, No "Trade X item to Moogle" Trial .... It promotes nothing but competition and hostility amongst players, Especially when they're all fighting for the same item.

    Again, Its never about the Quantity of the items, Its the fact the entire trial as a whole is rather poorly planned. It shows The Devs don't play their own game our understand exactly how out-of-reach this trials is going to be to the average, even above average relic holder, especially if they consider it as such (in reach)
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 01-28-2012 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    The Devs don't play their own game our understand exactly how out-of-reach this trials is going to be to the average, even above average relic holder, especially if they consider it as such (in reach)
    Since when is 100-200 million gil out of reach of the average relic holder? If you can't do ADL then buy the items from the many groups that will be farming ADL to sell his drop for 5-10 million gil. At that price ADL is a guaranteed 10-20m gill, more than enough for people to forgo currency farming and farm an ADL pop set instead.

    If SE did not intend people do buy the drops then you would not be able to put them in bazaar. Obviously they do or the items would have been Ex.
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    You have fun with that.

    The idea that LS's will actually farm this item to sell it to people is absurd to begin with. Most of them will farm it for their own Relic holders - From that point, a few may sell them sure, But theres not that many good LS's who can take out Arch Dynamis Lord across all servers, Maybe just 1-2 Per Server who could do it.

    Even then, They have to rely on the dumb-luck factor of "I split in two, hope you guess right".

    The idea that 100-200mil is within the reach of your average Relic holder, Who likely farmed their Relic through Dynamis, Is also laughable, But i won't even get into that, because its based off the completely wrong assumption that there will suddenly be a large enough supply of these in bazaars for people to buy.

    To date, even people knowing the trial is going to be this, i have not seen a single one of these items in a Bazaar, and I've looked on more than one occasion.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 01-28-2012 at 07:47 PM.

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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    You have fun with that
    25% to 50% there already depending on what the selling price is. I was expecting a large outlay of gil for the last upgrade so I've been busy this past year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Since when is 100-200 million gil out of reach of the average relic holder?
    Ignorance is truly bliss, I bet. But you keep on with that gil drive. Let us know how it feels down the road to repurchase your relic weapon(possibly as much as three times over) at 99 because your 150 million previously was not enough for SE. Then you can look at yourself and love yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Since when is 100-200 million gil out of reach of the average relic holder? If you can't do ADL then buy the items from the many groups that will be farming ADL to sell his drop for 5-10 million gil. At that price ADL is a guaranteed 10-20m gill, more than enough for people to forgo currency farming and farm an ADL pop set instead.

    If SE did not intend people do buy the drops then you would not be able to put them in bazaar. Obviously they do or the items would have been Ex.
    1-price of 1 Umbral Marrow will have to be atleast 20 mil to justify its selling price, I've already explained it, go find the post if you want to read the math behind it.
    2-ADL is never a guaranteed kill cause of the luck factor (50% chance of kill between fake/real)
    3-you're a troll
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    1-price of 1 Umbral Marrow will have to be atleast 20 mil to justify its selling price, I've already explained it, go find the post if you want to read the math behind it.
    2-ADL is never a guaranteed kill cause of the luck factor (50% chance of kill between fake/real)
    3-you're a troll

    Last time I did ADL he has 3 clones out, so thats 25% chance of guessing correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint2 View Post
    Last time I did ADL he has 3 clones out, so thats 25% chance of guessing correctly.
    Are you serious? lol
    I heard its "kill one ADL and two pop, one real one fake. If you kill real one, fight ends, if you kill fake, another 2 pop", and thats pretty disgusting as is. If multiple clones can pop, that's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint2 View Post
    Last time I did ADL he has 3 clones out, so thats 25% chance of guessing correctly.
    actually you have a 33.3% chance of picking right the first time and a 50% if your first guess was incorrect, now i might be doing this wrong but pretty sure this is a compounding probability. so .33 * .5 = 16.5% or i'm just tired and need to eat some food.

    Also peeps should just add attomic_troll to thier ignore lists, its clear he is either retarded or likes instigating people.
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    Last edited by Nala; 01-29-2012 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nala View Post
    actually you have a 33.3% chance of picking right the first time and a 50% if your first guess was incorrect, now i might be doing this wrong but pretty sure this is a compounding probability. so .33 * .5 = 16.5% or i'm just tired and need to eat some food.
    Thats if the clones pop and you fight till you kill the real one. To my understanding, when one ADL dies, it respawns with new clones. Of course, to my understanding as well, it was always 1 real 1 fake...so it very well could be when the real ADL is the last one standing, it spawns new clones.
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