Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Babekeke]

please stop derailing this thread with your stupid squabbles about how hard/easy it is to run an LS... its not relevant.

These trials are stupid and I can already see that its pretty obvious that only a few relic holders will get the 99 upgrade done, instead of the intended "Most". Should be kill DL 10 times or something like that, DL isn't that easy even with a group of 6 you still need a pretty specific setup to do it reliably.

Assuming that the requirements stay the same when the trial goes live on all servers, in 6 months time, 3 people on each server have the trial finished, and SE decide that it was maybe a bit hard afterall and add the items to more mobs or make the trial only 5 items. When the trial first came out for HMPs to upgrade everyone Q.Qd and said there was no way anyone will get 1500 of them. Maybe SE will add pouches for these items too? Who knows?

[Dreamin]

Assuming that the requirements stay the same when the trial goes live on all servers, in 6 months time, 3 people on each server have the trial finished, and SE decide that it was maybe a bit hard afterall and add the items to more mobs or make the trial only 5 items. When the trial first came out for HMPs to upgrade everyone Q.Qd and said there was no way anyone will get 1500 of them. Maybe SE will add pouches for these items too? Who knows?

If you remember Tanaka's interview that was posted to Alla's forum, that is exactly how he operates. He make things extreme hard initially and then slowly lessen things out. If you look at the history of this game, it is exactly how it operates in most instances other than Abyssea - to those ppl who wants to comment about abyssea, please dont. my post is about the idiotic thinking of Tanaka and not about the good/bad on abyssea. Let's discuss the idiotic thinking of Tanaka and the dev team regarding how they think. Somehow they are still stuck in the 2004 mind frame.

[Vold]

When the trial first came out for HMPs to upgrade everyone Q.Qd and said there was no way anyone will get 1500 of them.

There is a distinct difference between saying "it's going to take years to do this if you don't have hundreds of millions of gil" and "no one is ever going to complete this" Anyone without money certainly will not ever finish it anytime remotely soon. Their proclaimed casual empyreans will stay lv90 max.

How many people do you honestly think will help a single soul get their lv99 weapon by killing ADL? How do you even go about convincing them? I'm not sure a pickup group could put a dent in the thing. Even a dedicated LS is going to have a hard time with this. What are they going to do? Flip a coin? Set up some playoff tree contest and the winner gets first dibs? Are they going to be content with sharing drops, one drop at a time goes to a different person until everyone is done? Goodluck to the leader if they try to play Mr. Dictator and take first dibs. But hey, you know, like I've said in the past one of the great things about a hardcore LS is that you rely on each other to push forward. As long as the next person is right there by you, BSing, not necessarily having fun but to endure bullshit together, it counts for something. And that's why such LSs have survived the Abyssea/level cap era while everyone outside of them keeps preaching, "linkshells/groups are dead!"

Maybe it is SE's way of saying look, we want people to play together. And that's fine. We'd play together on a mass scale... if content wasn't stupid on rewarding players. Like 20 ADL drops for stage 1 and 1000 for stage 2. It invites drama, nothing more. Just to be fair, for all we know SE is planning to have ADL drop more than just one item when these trials go live. But would I be in the wrong to say that SE has not earned the benefit of the doubt? I don't think so. I think their idea is to truly have 1x drop per kill, requires 20, and for 17 other people to help you do it. ADL is one of the more recently implemented NMs in the game. It has no business whatsoever having something to do with lv75 content. It may be for lv99 weapons but it's still lv75 content. The 550ish Mythic holders must be thanking God right about now. If things had been different on timing they'd be fighting a frickin Arch PW or some shit.