Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Alerith]

please GG.You are not folling nobody.

Lol at your "linkshell" counting as a large scale endgame ls. Aww honey, bless your heart1 (aka B**c, please)

Running a ls that did sky,sea,einherjar,various hnms,dynamis 5 days a week. Yeas that took work and patience and im sure leaders of the legendary endgame shells back at 75 would agree.

It makes much more sense when you know who GG was before abyssea. Lolz. W.e im done arguing with u. Ur ls was so amazing gg! And it was SO EASY to lead too.

Because ACLARITY AND WINGSOFVANADIEL were SO AMAZING, SO PROACTIVE, SO ELITE! right GG?
AMIRITE? Lol, bless ur heart booboo

edit: yeah most ls leaders have IT EASY! AND THEYRE NOT EVEN ANY GOOD. gtfo. Its an embarrasment to the hard working shellleaders who did well by their members w.o taking advantage of them. U go around spouting bs about how easy their jobs were and how theyre still not any good. I could hav been the most hated player in xi, but at least im not a joke player kidding myself into the thought that i was so amazing and leading was so easy. dude ur ls was never that good, u were never that good and that hasnt changed since abyssea. its just no one cares how good u are now and u can sit down trying to front. ur ls was never large scale and you know it. so stop lyin.

This is one of the most pathetic and childish posts I have seen in such an argument. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

And no good leader from back in the day is going to say it was hard. What they are going to say is that they had a good group of officers to help manage the shell.

It's only hard if you're incapable, incompetent, or both.

[Anewie]

This is one of the most pathetic and childish posts I have seen in such an argument. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

And no good leader from back in the day is going to say it was hard. What they are going to say is that they had a good group of officers to help manage the shell.

It's only hard if you're incapable, incompetent, or both.

Again, its subjective. I find leading to be hard work. Many others do, and id venture to say any leader or officer of any of the big name hnm or endgame LS will agree that leading can be and is hard work. Is that saying it isnt fun and is a miserable experience? No. Is that to say it's impossible? No.

If you HONESTLY believe you could have easily lead a group of people the way EXCELLENCE, DEMO, BLUE GARTR did back at 75, not only are u FoS, but as I said before, quite delusional. Why would I be mad? Lol, bless ur heart sweety.

No on said leading shells was hard.I said it was hard work, and that's not nessicarily the same thing. Absolute Virtue was hard, gathering members, managing points, managing drama, keeping track of attendance, getting people gathered, figuring out wtf and organizing a large scale endgame ls, takes, shock(!), patience, dedication and hard work.

Now u can trash talk and say the members were drama infested retards who couldnt play worth anything, but truth tea tastes like this: they did more, got more and had more fun than you probably ever did. And they didnt whine about it at the end of the day.

If you honestly think any large scale LS, that required persistence and hard work to keep the shell running on top, was due to "losers" ls members etc, I can really understand why GG would say that. The dude was and is a butt hurt mad baby who didnt accomplish much of anything until empyrean weapons came out.

Call me rude or childish if you want, but shell leaders work hard to make and run good shells. GG has no exp in that and has no right to trash any shell that was ever on top of their game. Their game being whatever they wanted to do. Saying if a leader works hard for their members must be because the members are childish and stupid, that's insulting,although true sometimes tbh (lol). Leaders and members both can work hard for their gears, but leaders do tend to do the more work. This argument started when I said a leader is typically more deserving of the first loot.

All argument aside, my point still stands. Leaders are deserving of being the first to reep the rewards of the more rare loot. Why? If you must argue using GGs very silly and delusional argument that leaders only need to work hard if their members suck or are childish (ludicrous lol), it still doesn't change my point. A LS leader is also the boss, the HBIC, the ringleader, the captain, the parent and architect of the group.

The point im trying to make is simply, who better deserve the first sponsorship or reward of a rare kind than the leader themself? The answer is no one in most cases.This argument isn't about being selfish, you're all selfish as players in a sense that you think the game should cater to you. If you think you deserve everything under the sun at the same rate and value of the people who are organizing and running the shell, you are selfish as well.

If you honestly think a leader is selfish and so undeserveing over you, gtfo and start ur own gd LS. Hello? Because its so easy right gg?^^ Oh, you're already a ls leader, one who doesnt need to work hard because ur members are so mature and elite and independant! Sorry I forgot.lol Bless ur heart

[Babekeke]

I'm so brilliant that I have to slag people off whilst hiding behind a level 1 mule

Another add to /blacklist... These forums are getting quieter by the day.