Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Sparthos]

Why would you look for people to play the jobs your mule/mules does/do? Even if you don't have mules, and no one in your alliance of relic holders has mules, you act like it would be difficult to shout and get those people by offering them, and only them, lotting rights on all drops. Those items for the glowy trial would probably be worth a few mil still, and some of the drops from the other NMs aren't cheap either. Plus you can get 100's.

You're gonna get hundreds doing an ADL run? Unlikely, especially with the DL rate nerf.

The fact is the trials are pretty fucking stupid and offers very little for non-relics at the cost of requiring an alliance to win. If I shout ADL, I can offer w/e shit currency falls from killing trash mobs, the drops from the popped NMs (which arent 100% drops), DL drops (largely shit) and ADL drops (not in high demand).

No one is going to waste their time helping people unless it's just for fun. The trial is designed poorly through and through. You having to bring up mules shows just how low demand would be to assist relic holders up to 99.

[SpankWustler]

You're gonna get hundreds doing an ADL run? Unlikely, especially with the DL rate nerf.

The fact is the trials are pretty fucking stupid and offers very little for non-relics at the cost of requiring an alliance to win. If I shout ADL, I can offer w/e shit currency falls from killing trash mobs, the drops from the popped NMs (which arent 100% drops), DL drops (largely shit) and ADL drops (not in high demand).

No one is going to waste their time helping people unless it's just for fun. The trial is designed poorly through and through. You having to bring up mules shows just how low demand would be to assist relic holders up to 99.

Assuming the trial was kill-based there would be the added reward of selling the Umbral SadThing to a SadPerson. Only a little over a million gil a piece after an even split across an alliance, but considering the other rewards are exactly as awful as you make them out to be, a million gil each would be a pretty big improvement.

Plus, it's not a 100% win so you can't exactly consider it a million gil every night. Plus, some people would be giving up their nightly farming run for it. So, yeah, even if the trial were changed to "kills on any job while equipped with this SadBullet" it would still pretty much suck. It would just suck less.

A (presumably larger) number of vanilla Dynamis Lord kills would be an improvement. I presume the number would be larger because when gun's already out, somebody's bound to at least be pistol-whipped.

[wish12oz]

You're gonna get hundreds doing an ADL run? Unlikely, especially with the DL rate nerf.

The fact is the trials are pretty fucking stupid and offers very little for non-relics at the cost of requiring an alliance to win. If I shout ADL, I can offer w/e shit currency falls from killing trash mobs, the drops from the popped NMs (which arent 100% drops), DL drops (largely shit) and ADL drops (not in high demand).

No one is going to waste their time helping people unless it's just for fun. The trial is designed poorly through and through. You having to bring up mules shows just how low demand would be to assist relic holders up to 99.

Way to not read the thread and think I like the trial or am supporting it somehow.

Also: Who doesn't try to always bring their mules with them everywhere? I triple box better then most can play one, so I'd prefer to bring mules most of the time. This will especially be true after I finish G horn for my BRD mule.

[Mahoro]

Also: Who doesn't try to always bring their mules with them everywhere? I triple box better then most can play one, so I'd prefer to bring mules most of the time. This will especially be true after I finish G horn for my BRD mule.

The people who, either by choice or financial circumstance, don't dual-box.

[Nynja]

The people who, either by choice or financial circumstance, don't dual-box.

If an extra 15 bucks is that much of a hindrance to your budget, perhaps you shouldnt be playing ffxi to begin with.

[Sparthos]

If an extra 15 bucks is that much of a hindrance to your budget, perhaps you shouldnt be playing ffxi to begin with.

Nonsensical argument.

If you don't want to pay for a second account (for whatever reason) you should still be able to do the most recent events released by SE due to sheer demand. Dead on arrival events like this ADL setup just show how little thought SE puts into some things they release (like WoE).

[Crysten]

If an extra 15 bucks is that much of a hindrance to your budget, perhaps you shouldnt be playing ffxi to begin with.

Holy generalizations, Batman!

[Sparthos]

Way to not read the thread and think I like the trial or am supporting it somehow.

Also: Who doesn't try to always bring their mules with them everywhere? I triple box better then most can play one, so I'd prefer to bring mules most of the time. This will especially be true after I finish G horn for my BRD mule.

You're assuming dualboxing is the rule and not the exception.

It's a good perk to have but it doesn't excuse the lack of demand for ADL because SE can't be arsed to create some incentive for non-relics.

[wish12oz]

You're assuming dualboxing is the rule and not the exception.

It's always been the rule, not the exception, for the better players to have mules.

Wanting to play 3 characters

Fixed that for you.

But you're right about the rest, the reason I WANT to play more then one, is because other people are so bad, and it really shouldn't be like that. Also, I'm not going to ask friends to help me with bad, not fun content, unless I HAVE to. That's last resort for me, because I like my friends and don't want to burden then with helping me do obnoxious stuff. It's to bad a lot of stuff in this game is not fun.