Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Zumi]

People in here talk like no one plays in a LS anymore. Granted, the balance has shifted towards lowman content, but is seriously no one of you in a LS that would be willing to help their own relic owners with ADL?

Most people do not have a huge linkshell filled with people that would be willing to undertake something like 20 ADL kills. Abyssea basically turned FFXI into a game where you do stuff with 2 or 3 people.

[Arcon]

As has been pointed out...you can pop only 1 ADL per run, and with the random nature of the fight, you will have a 75% killrate. It will take a month to clear out one persons relic.

What happens when u have 12 relics in your ls? Spend a year upgading everyones relic to 99? Remember this is dynamis time lost where ppl may be trying to upgrade their own relics, farm currency for gil, farm AF to upgrade...etc

I was talking about killshots right now, since that seems where this conversation was headed. I agree that it's ridiculous with the current trials. But I think if it was done with killshots, 20 would not be too much to ask.

Most people do not have a huge linkshell filled with people that would be willing to undertake something like 20 ADL kills. Abyssea basically turned FFXI into a game where you do stuff with 2 or 3 people.

I don't know about most people. And what Abyssea did can be undone, which is shown by the amount of people happy about Legion. People simply went to lowman groups because the game allowed it. If the game requires larger numbers again, that's what's gonna happen.