Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Geabrielle]

First of all, thank you for taking the time and consideration to actual LOWER the number of required items in the first place. In comparison to the old trial numbers this is a breath of relief and I thoroughly applaud the information. Thank you Camate, thank you every much for bearing the brunt of a frustrated player base.

Yes, these are still ridiculous trials but at this stage in the game I expect ridiculous trials. These are the FINALs, friends, the end of the road and it's mean to be this epic. So feel free to rage quit, feel free to hollar about it like and completely forget the fact that you are supposed to be veteran players of FF11 NOT some pansy WoW player who wants to be epic in 5 minutes and throws a tantrum.

This is a GAME, its supposed to be a time sink of varying degrees based upon the flavor of the player's disposition. Feel free to go on a rage and flame fit now, if you wish. I'm adult enough not to care. Send all mail to whineyflamingbabies@wambulance.mail.com.

Good eve.

[Helel]

First of all, thank you for taking the time and consideration to actual LOWER the number of required items in the first place. In comparison to the old trial numbers this is a breath of relief and I thoroughly applaud the information. Thank you Camate, thank you every much for bearing the brunt of a frustrated player base.

Yes, these are still ridiculous trials but at this stage in the game I expect ridiculous trials. These are the FINALs, friends, the end of the road and it's mean to be this epic. So feel free to rage quit, feel free to hollar about it like and completely forget the fact that you are supposed to be veteran players of FF11 NOT some pansy WoW player who wants to be epic in 5 minutes and throws a tantrum.

This is a GAME, its supposed to be a time sink of varying degrees based upon the flavor of the player's disposition. Feel free to go on a rage and flame fit now, if you wish. I'm adult enough not to care. Send all mail to whineyflamingbabies@wambulance.mail.com.

Good eve.

What are you even talking about dude...

#1: there was NO trial previous to today, so how could they have decreased the required items for a trial that never existed?
#2: the items required for stage 2 are exactly the same as they were yesterday.

The planned difficulty level for the corresponding Magian upgrade trials will be such that a majority of players with the appropriate level 95 equipment will likely be able to complete them.

No? The majority of players with 95 equipment? How does that even factor into being able to complete this trial? You need 11-17 other people willing to kill ADL with you, and then you need 1-2 SMNs (which has nothing to do with gear), and then you need to win the lot; you also need to sacrifice millions of gil every day you do ADL instead of farm currency. Overall, the relic trials are utterly ridiculous, especially in comparison to empyrean. 60 rift items lol? Seriously? I could have had that done now before the trial is even released.

You can spam VW NMs; you cannot spam ADL; and you cannot spam PW. Someone suggested that you need to make the upgrade items drop from the lower tier NMs. This is an excellent suggestion and should definitely be considered.