The only way 20 ADL items is going to be reasonable is if the changes to AoE damage make it feasible to kill him without PD and so allow you to kill 3-4 per run. And even then it's going to be a huge PITA.

At the minute there's 15 Relics in my LS and I am absolutely certain that not a single one of them will upgraded if the trial remains as is. It's just not feasible for us to kill 300+ ADL as a LS and it would never be fair to focus on a single persons relic with that sort of backlog.

No LS is going to want to go in daily. Christ, I get maybe 3-4 hours a day free time on working days and no way am I booking up 2 hours a day for 80% of the next year just to upgrade my Apoc + Ragnarok along with everyone elses relic in the LS. I'd be basically playing solely to upgrade Relics from 95 > 99 if we went down that route and I imagine it would be the same for a lot of people in my LS and a lot of other LS'es out there.


It's says a lot when I'd rather do the 10 PW items, 60 Riftdross and 60 Riftcinder combined rather than the just 20 Umbral Marrows. Because in all honesty, I think the Mythic and both Empy trials combined are still overall easier than the 20 Umbral Marrows. Would take longer for 1 individual weapon but overall it would be easier as you wouldn't be limited by 1 ADL per day and needing so many people to safely/consistently kill plus those people also have to forego their Dyna entry for the day.