Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[pim-ptarutaru]

I agree with the op, wtf at this trial?

This is absurb. Please delete this trial and stop trolling. The fact the op in the other thread said... this trial would be sought after by elites, they are delusional.

Nobody wants to be special so badly theyd put up with 300 ADLs so they can glow. Come on people... Who have you been playing with that is that silly/epeen hungry?

In B4 INSANIAK/GG come in after me, lol.

LOL you would be surprised on how many will do.

[pim-ptarutaru]

wish all the casuals would stop crying about this. be happy they gonna let you have a lv 99. who cares if you dont get the after glow. and yes there will people doing it no matter how absurd the trial is. Finally weapons that every casual won't have.

[Prothscar]

So anyone who doesn't want to spend 2 years to get a completely worthless glow effect are casuals? Your definition for "casual" is skewed. I like to refer to these people as sane.

[Insaniac]

I’d like to share the developers’ thoughts and plan for these new trials and upgrades.

When it comes to the first stage of upgrades for relic/mythic/empyrean weapons, this is considered to be the weapon’s complete form and is also the one the developers expect most players can achieve. They don’t want to dangle a carrot in front of everyone saying, “you can make these weapons even more powerful!” and then make it so only small fraction of players achieve this.

On the other hand, as some of you have already mentioned, the second stage of these weapon enhancements is left for those players who wish to go above and beyond—the “completionists” so to speak. This is why there will be no difference in weapon skill damage or other stats and only an AoE benefit as well as a special effect will be given for completing this upgrade.

I like the concept and I think a lot of players do but it's pretty universally agreed that the stage 2 trials are asking too much even for the completionists. I would like to see stage 2 requirements dialed back a bit but only if it has absolutely zero effect on the stage 1 trials. I think the exclusivity could still be retained with far lower numbers on the relic and mythic path but tell the devs to do whatever they need to do to keep my non-glow 99 accessible while retaining the same damage dealing ability of the stage 2.

[Zarchery]

They're still dangling a carrot, however it's a pointless, rotten carrot that would be better off not existing or being made more available. No sane human being will ever complete those trials.

Well, sanity is relative. If the person enjoys it, so what? I mean, any effort put forth to attain any item in this game serves no purpose except to enable the bearer to get more things in the game. If you enjoy the effort put forth to get anywhere in this game, then you're spending your time well. If, however, you're doing it out of some perceived sense that you have to do it, you really aren't.

[Hayward]

Some people will say anything to justify this irrational obsession with status.

Building 8 Avatar Magian staves all the way is a perfectly normal goal to shoot for (for SMNs, anyway) and be proud of once completed (anyone mentioning Nirvana is lying to himself). These trials are for people who probably shouldn't be allowed outside among the public.

[Washburn]

The Aoe doesnt even effect the player with the weapon, does it? I assumed it worked like the other AoE gear pieces. Which, honestly, even calling that a carrot is laughable. Having a glow effect is more of a reason to do it, and honestly my shell has like 15 relics, and none of us are even considering working on aura effects.

[SpankWustler]

I’d like to share the developers’ thoughts and plan for these new trials and upgrades.

When it comes to the first stage of upgrades for relic/mythic/empyrean weapons, this is considered to be the weapon’s complete form and is also the one the developers expect most players can achieve. They don’t want to dangle a carrot in front of everyone saying, “you can make these weapons even more powerful!” and then make it so only small fraction of players achieve this.

On the other hand, as some of you have already mentioned, the second stage of these weapon enhancements is left for those players who wish to go above and beyond—the “completionists” so to speak. This is why there will be no difference in weapon skill damage or other stats and only an AoE benefit as well as a special effect will be given for completing this upgrade.

I love that "completionists" sounds like a polite euphemism in the last paragraph. I can imagine the developers seeing that some poor soul has completed an afterglow weapon, looking at each other with amused expressions, then cheerfully declaring that the King of all NEETs has claimed his lonesome throne.

They'll begin to debate whether such a throne is made of out Mikuru Asahina love pillows or Mami Tomoe love pillows, battle lines will be drawn, and even less work than usual will get done that day.

[Ravenmore]

Camate people are getting mad at this when we get the devs saying do to cost, man power what not they can't put out content at a faster pace then they turn around and do this mess. I don't care if it took a intern slave 10 mins to put it in that 10mins could have been better spent.

[Alerith]

I’d like to share the developers’ thoughts and plan for these new trials and upgrades.

When it comes to the first stage of upgrades for relic/mythic/empyrean weapons, this is considered to be the weapon’s complete form and is also the one the developers expect most players can achieve. They don’t want to dangle a carrot in front of everyone saying, “you can make these weapons even more powerful!” and then make it so only small fraction of players achieve this.

On the other hand, as some of you have already mentioned, the second stage of these weapon enhancements is left for those players who wish to go above and beyond—the “completionists” so to speak. This is why there will be no difference in weapon skill damage or other stats and only an AoE benefit as well as a special effect will be given for completing this upgrade.

This point of view is understandable, but I think it's being poorly executed. If it's just meant to be a completionists thing, a carrot to dangle for someone who wants one push into a "status", then it should just be a glorified glow effect and the trial should be considerably less. The effect besides actually glowing is extremely underwhelming, especially for what the trial asks.