Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Insaniac]

There is nothing exclusive about glowing or offering very small buffs for your party.

The exclusivity is that 1/10000 people will do the trial. That's pretty exclusive. I don't care about exclusivity. I just want to do as much damage with my dagger as I possibly can.

[Alerith]

The exclusivity is that 1/10000 people will do the trial. That's pretty exclusive. I don't care about exclusivity. I just want to do as much damage with my dagger as I possibly can.

This is precisely my point. If you don't mind, I'd like to use you as an example.

You want to do as much damage with your dagger as you can. In that case, you have no reason to do the afterglow trial. Some other R/M/E wielder crazy enough to do the trial in it's current form can do the work and you'll get the benefit in a few years.

As was stated earlier by Arcon, that's fine for someone who does the trial specifically to help others. But can you honestly see anyone doing a trial this crazy just for a part buff? I can't even see many of the "hardcore elitists" doing this trial for something that, at the moment, isn't worth getting.

[Insaniac]

I don't think anyone would do it for the buff. I think people will attempt to do it because of the feeling of accomplishment that comes with having something so few other people have. That's really all that matters to a lot of people.

[Arcon]

There is nothing exclusive about glowing or offering very small buffs for your party.

Yes, there is. You don't seem to understand what "exclusive" means. It doesn't have to be good to be exclusive. It's a status of something unique.

I don't think anyone would do it for the buff. I think people will attempt to do it because of the feeling of accomplishment that comes with having something so few other people have. That's really all that matters to a lot of people.

This. The buffs don't warrant the trial. It's not something people will do to improve, it's something they'll do (or die trying) to stand out.

[Vold]

Afterglow effect will be a cool twist! Just think of it.... it helps your comrades BUT NOT YOU! Well, no it's not cool, but maybe on Krypton...

Remember that as far as the current known stats go, stage 1 for the stat boost, stage 2 for glow. And there almost certainly will be an additional perk to doing stage 2 because not even SE believes many will complete it so it's not like they're banking on everyone getting it done and helping each other out with their aura.

Additional planned features, such as equipment-specific magic spells and pets, have been postponed to allow for more thorough testing concerning attributes, the number of potential users and the process by which to obtain them. One consideration is whether to implement such features as another stage of the above upgrades, or to apply them to a different set of equipment. Also under deliberation is whether to limit the availability of such equipment or make it relatively simple to obtain.

We are so quick to forget details. But let's be real - I'll shit my pants if there's a stage #3 and it ends up including spells we haven't had access to, ranging from meteor to san to elegy to somethings RDM and SCH can use. I really hope this is one time they didn't read and it's not my fault that I uttered the idea "spells on relic weapons" and doomed us to never owning those spells. This is one time they had better already thought it up themselves because I might torture myself by watching Olsen twin movies if they finally give us these spells and like only 5 people will ever use them. If it's not my fault then I'll just /suicide. But I'm pretty sure I didn't utter the words "Utsusemi San on relic katana" until AFTER they uttered the words "mass elegy on brd instru" so I think I'm safe from the watching olsen twin movies fate.

Not forgetting possible pet additions here but I really don't want to even begin speculating on those. I'll just say that for BST I expect a wyrm pet... I just know that SE is SE and that there will probably be a third stage and it will probably own and give meaning to doing the second stage beyond prestige. And everyone will rage quit and FFXI will end as people will finally had enough with the rick rolls and revenge will be had.




If you're wondering about the revenge bit, just take some time to think about it. It'll come to you. Not necessarily 100% related to FFXI.

[Anewie]

Yes, there is. You don't seem to understand what "exclusive" means. It doesn't have to be good to be exclusive. It's a status of something unique.



This. The buffs don't warrant the trial. It's not something people will do to improve, it's something they'll do (or die trying) to stand out.

I get that, but why do you need to do 100 pws to stand out? Theres goblin belt and ghost cape, which are much easier to get it, if one only wants to be unique.

I understand it, it just doesn't make much sense based on the trial requirements.

I also don't think it compares to what XI is used to in comparison to wanting to be exclusive.

[Alerith]

Vold, while that sounds nice and all, a third trial beyond the proposed afterglow trial is...a bit on the loony side.

I don't care if Meteor on your level 99 +2 Claustrum deals 9999 damage outside of abyssea. With the 99 +1 trial the way it is right now, we'd never see it, no matter how hardcore of a BLM you may be.

[Insaniac]

The fact that they made stage 2 a trophy gives me hope that they wouldn't do something silly like that. I feel like they maybe kinda are starting to get it.

[Alerith]

The fact that they made stage 2 a trophy gives me hope that they wouldn't do something silly like that. I feel like they maybe kinda are starting to get it.

I suppose that's the best way to look at it. 99 +1 is a trophy item. Is it worth getting? Depends on how much time you and your shell/friends are willing to spend. I personally don't see the worth at all, even for E-peen considering a fair amount of people aren't really going to look at you with respect.

What would be nice is if the "Meteor" "Spike Flail" etc. augments were a branch off of the NQ 99, so you don't HAVE to do the afterglow trial.


Claustrum (99)------Claustrum (99) Afterglow
Claustrum (99)------Claustrum (99) "Meteor"
Claustrum (99)------Claustrum (99) "Ultima"

Tizona (99)------Tizona (99) Afterglow
Tizona (99)------Tizona (99) "Spike Flail"
Tizona (99)------Tizona (99) "Mighty Guard"

etc. etc.

[Insaniac]

There are people who think emps aren't worth the trouble as well. Different strokes for different folks.

I think and hope that will be the case with the trials. They are very aware of how exclusive the glow weapons will be so I don't think they would enrage people by putting something they want so badly like new avatars pets and spells on a stage that requires even more effort than stage 2.