Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Zinato]

Thats called PR.

They're attempting to save-face and turn FFXIV around from being a flop, You're delusional if you think for a second anything would have changed if the game actually made a good release. The only reason FFXIV is changing is because it was hailed as one of the worst releases of an MMO in forever.

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That said, I would like to note: I understand they listen, i really do.

But I think they have the same problem as the FFXIV Team did. They only half listen, and continue to go about their "Grand vision of balance" with or without our approval. Which, Some might think is their right, But they're selling a constant product, If they want to keep customers, Their goal shouldn't be fullfilling some un-seeable vision of Balance, it should be making customers happy.

Which they're failing at doing when the majority of players are complaining, NA, EU, and JP, look around.

The only way we'll really see change is if the game literally died and began draining money, and this late in its life, they'd likely just pull the plug, they know it, and we know it. So most of us keep playing in hopes maybe something in the future will change, But a lot of us are quitting because its becoming hopeless.

I really like what they did with this forum, truly., But as someone would say, Its about 7 Years too late to make a real difference. I like the Community Reps, I enjoy the forum itself and what we can do with it, I enjoy the Test server.

I Just wish we had all of it when it could actually make a difference, When new people were actually coming in, When the game wasn't in its final stages. (not saying its dying, its just, Theres very few new players)

I quoted an edit that didn't exist yet? Since, we are momentarily off topic I wanted to say I wish they would quit making numbered FF installments MMOs. I do enjoy replaying the others from time to time i'll be sad one day when I can't play XI anymore and replay/rewatch story. At this rate though FFXVI or XVII will be an MMO too. Name it FF Crystal War or something just don't subject numbered installments to this.

[Nala]

Sadly its far too late for such sentiments, there have been other numbered final fantasy releases since, i had thought the same thing at the release of 11 but it is what it is and at this point, kind of like most of the major changes that we allow the dev team to put through, they are what they are, well they might change it in about 7 years who knows?

If only a comrep could shove what Karbuncle just said down the dev's throats and force them to chew and digest it perhaps we could stop the "Evil Genie" (sorry i like that analogy... its very appropriate.)

[Alerith]

I'm not really going to try to pick sides on this particular argument, but what makes single player games more valid than MMOs?

Or rather, why is it more proper for a numbered FF installment to be singleplayer? Are MMO players opinions and money any less valid?

[cidbahamut]

I'm not really going to try to pick sides on this particular argument, but what makes single player games more valid than MMOs?

Or rather, why is it more proper for a numbered FF installment to be singleplayer? Are MMO players opinions and money any less valid?

It's more that FFXI would have been more appropriately named as Final Fantasy: [subtitle of your choice goes here], rather than another iteration of the numerical sequence. An MMO is a distinctly different experience than what a single player console game offers. It's about people being stuck in their ways. I myself was pretty upset when I heard that the 11th numerical installment was going to be an MMO. I figured they should have just called it Final Fantasy Online or something, and I still think they should have done that.

It's not like every final fantasy has been tied to a number throughout the company's history. There's precedent for breaking from the numerical labeling. Anyone remember Final Fantasy Mystic Quest?

[Zinato]

I've had this question before, and the answer is single player is eternal. I can play FFI on my NES right this moment. However, there servers won't be up forever no matter how much I wish they were. And with new MMOs include those of the same brand its only a matter of time before the older ones vanish. I don't want it one player for "A better game" I want it single player so its around forever. For example, one day people will ask who Prishe is in FF Dissidia and only those who played FFXI in its time will be able to ever know who she was. Should I ever have kids I imagine when they ask what game came after X I'll end up saying XII.

Personally, once the game reaches it final incarnation I would wish they created a PS3 blu-ray version of FFXI designed for single player playing. Tweaks to NPC system allowing for up to 3 all of who grow in level with you, and of course tweaks to big end-game bosses so that 4 can win. Oh, and the obvious drops would have to change to be much much higher and respawns much lower. (can't very well spend a year making a weapon in a single player game.) I know this is impossible but it would be nice to replay the story from time to time, its a bummer 90% of storyline is unrepeatable, excluding cut-scenes.

[Runespider]

They won't change it before addition now, it will be added in a few days.

Whether they will change it later on will be down to how many actually do the trials, and since some of the people complaining here are more than willing to buy them from mercs I'm guessing quite a lot will actually be doing them.

As I say, I think a lot will end up doing these once they realise it can be seen as a status item and they will join/create shells to obtain them. FFXI has always been about status and it won't take most endgamers long to slip back into that mindset with the devs pushing stuff like this.

[Atomic_Skull]

SE actually *does* listen to their players. It's just a matter of which players they are listening to, and that's not us.

[SpankWustler]

SE actually *does* listen to their players. It's just a matter of which players they are listening to, and that's not us.

They only listen to their focus group of 24 in the Osaka Asylum for the Criminally Insane?

[Insaniac]

The results of the poll show:
3 - for
2 - against
19 - I can see the devil in your shirt when I look at you through my bed sheet

"Proceed with stage 2 trials."

[Unctgtg]

So I guess SE since unlocking and reundeleting this thread, has completely ignored ALL threads.