Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Dreamin]

I really hope and pray that SE does not ignore all these posts all over these boards. If they do, that just shows us one thing, they do not care about it's player base.

You need to follow other threads a lot more often if you think this is a unique thing happening.

BST's threads, SMN threads, VW threads, etc etc. And these are just the recent ones.

[Nynja]

Cuz I read the strategy and I dodge when a mob uses fire spit or weapon toss and tp feed it with clubs?

I actually just bothered reading this garbage...you really think that works? lol this isnt quake 2, you cant circlestrafe

[Scribble]

Please people stop suggesting killshots. You're going to run into the same problem down the line when there are a handful of 95 relics.
Look at the 95 cap fight, anyone who missed the initial wave is still at 95, or quit because they cant find anyone to do the fight.

LB is a joke. People who can't finish it aren't going because they don't have the cookie-cutter group for it. If you have someone with an item, just one, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to get a group together. You're comparing this to ADL? Seriously?

How about ppl that dont want to upg relic and are needed for kill? they wont be rewarded at all.

These people are rewarded by not wasting their time. Why would you go to kill an NM you only have a chance at killing for a smaller chance at an item you could sell for less then you are (almost) guaranteed by farming on your own? If I didn't want to upgrade a relic and didn't want other items from ADL I'd farm elsewhere. Hell, if I did want items from an NM like that I'd probably still pass.

Why spend all day fishing when you could just work to buy fish and have money left over? You might not catch any fish at all and you'll be hungry and broke. People never consider the opportunity costs?

[Nynja]

LB is a joke. People who can't finish it aren't going because they don't have the cookie-cutter group for it. If you have someone with an item, just one, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to get a group together. You're comparing this to ADL? Seriously?

lrn 2 reed

Im comparing it to the fact the fight is being dumbed down further cuz some ppl r stuck

[Scribble]

lrn 2 reed

I read it again twice, but it still seems like you're comparing LB to ADL.

I agree that a dumbied down LB is ridiculous because it's so easy. The ADL situation is actually complicated enough to deserve it because of the difficulty of the NM compounded by the daily lockout and the fact that only one item drops.

[Natasha]

I agree that a dumbied down LB is ridiculous because it's so easy. The ADL situation is actually complicated enough to deserve it because of the difficulty of the NM compounded by the daily lockout and the fact that only one item drops.

I agree with this, not to mention the high potential for bottleneck and wasting your daily dynamis time fighting to pop. Some have speculated a 3x ??? but honestly .... there is really nothing good about having ADL for this trial.

[Natasha]

No longer in the "hot topics".

Still have my fingers crossed in hopes there will be a change to the ADL trial. (not expected but you know)

[Nynja]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Supplies_Recovery (debatable)
At 95 my monk and a blue mage and a whm killed all buy one imp before the npcs could get to them.

You're full of shit...I just tried to 3box this assault. I killed 8/10 imps, and lost the assault with them somehow getting 5 packages to my two. I then did it a second time and got 5/5 packages before they got any.

to say its a skill based assault is a joke

[detlef]

If you killed 8/10 and still lost because they got 5 packages you didn't read the wiki. Any imp they touch is theirs. This is why you position yourself at the top of the cliff and work your way down so you can kill mobs before they even finish with their first. It sounds like the first time you tried, you were fighting the same mobs the NPCs were.

I thought this assault would be a pain in the ass like it was at 75 but it's incredibly easy now.

[Alerith]

Luckily, assaults can be discussed in a thread about that topic.

On topic for this thread:

To be completely fair, there may come a time where a perfect strategy for ADL is formed out and the fight becomes nothing but a minor nuisance. In that case, five items wouldn't be horrible.

However, I don't think we should bank on that fact, because in the event ADL remains a permanent ass, five items per person, per relic is going to be murder on a LS's schedule and members.