Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Helel]

Let's say you can somehow magically manage to only get 5 people that need the relic upgrade to help you (the other 2 parties are just people helping out). 6*5 = 30 runs of dynamis * 2.5m lost per run = 75m lost. I see people selling rift items for a max of 1m each (which is way overpriced imo). Empyreans are not harder to upgrade than relics. Are the devs seriously this delusional?

[Kysaiana]

The obvious solution is to just add primeval brews to Dynamis. I've never fought ADL but it seems he's disproportionately difficult to win consistently compared to PW and the 2 T6s, and that is the biggest complaint relic holders have. 5 seems like a reasonable number to collect. Sure linkshells with tons of relics will have to spend a lot of time in dynamis, but let's face it, there's crap all left to do in this game anyway. It just sucks that it's apparently a gamble if you'll even win after you extend the effort to pop ADL.

I'll probably be stuck at 90 Masamune forever at the rate I'm collecting HMPs. Sure I could spend weeks in abyssea grinding out crour to convert to 150+ million gil to buy all the plates, but it doesn't seem worth the effort for one trial which is just a stepping stone to the final trial. Even if people sold riftdross/cinder for 1 mil gil each, the final trial would still be less than half the cost of the 95 trial...

So yeah, these trials are a pain the in butt and I'd rather just grind out ws kills despite it's soul crushing dullness. What can you do? I guess keep whining and hopefully it won't blow up in your faces.

[Natasha]

All ideas have fault, otherwise they would be unconditionally the right answer. The idea has merit, please consider this constructive criticism. First, given the nature of these weapons I don't think they would ever close off Stage 2. Branching is a great idea but, there are two things I am nearly sure SE is going for. First, I'm fairly sure they wish to maintain a once a day limit as a means to balance casual and hardcore. In other words prevent a player playing 18 hours a day from having a major advantage over someone who plays 3. Second, and this I'm sure of, they want to maintain the Relic story meaning a trial to grant it power would need to have some origin with dynamis, or the crystal war era. Adjust the conditions to something related to one of the two and it could work. One path faster in a group, one designed for a small team.

Well, I was just speaking of it in concept... the specifics aren't 'as' important to me excepting the time gate for casual vs. hardcore. That idea is the same as the one used in the 'fatigue' system in ffxiv which was eventually abolished and for good reason.

[Atoreis]

Some facts:

NO, Empyrean never meant to be easier to make than relic or mythic
NO, 99 trial is not the only part of doing a 99 relic/mythic/empyrean
YES, 99 trial arent equally hard because they are based on how hard is to get 95 version

Mythic starts as hardcore then it goes to easy mode with trials
Relic starts with medium hard then go easy then its medium hard again
Empyrean starts easily then it goes to hard mode and then to medium mode

YES, all you do is whine, whine and whine when devs has already given you easiest option possible compared to what was planned on start

MAJORITY word used by Camato about ppl will got 99 meant MAJORITY of ppl who have 95 and want 99 not majority of all players.

[Alerith]

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Did this thread just magically re-appear again?

[Tamoa]

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Did this thread just magically re-appear again?

Hahahaha yes it did!

[Dreamin]

Yes it appears that they have restored this thread from the nuke pile.

I think SE should be praised in the fact that they have realized a mistake and reversed itself and bringing this thread back.

[wish12oz]

Probably got tired of the 10 new threads per hour being created.

[Urteil]

SE reversing a decision?

Gentlemen never do such things!

[Seriha]

Might've been some specific post nuking while it was invisible to cut down on quotes and need to re-edit them out.