Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Camiie]

The problem with kills is that it would be very unbalanced. PLD could equip Excalibur and Aegis, while MNK can only equip Spharai. And don't think you can come RDM/NIN (Excal+Mandau) either, because ADL doesn't strike me as a NM you want to PUG...
Oh, and don't forget you need to be alive for kills to count...

What about BRD with Mandau and Gjallarhorn? Oh and SAM can have Amano and Yoichi!

Yeah, just forget about making a reasonable system because 4 jobs can equip 2 relics at once. Yessiree that's a total game breaker right there! Some jobs can occasionally work on 2 "normal" Magian trials at the same time... I'm ashamed to say I have done this before... You know we should probably scrap the whole Magian system since that's horribly unbalanced!

[Crysten]

This is the situation I'm ultimately reminded of every time I come back to this discussion.

Looking at Camate's reply though, the dev team clearly aren't listening to the points we're making, either way.

[Taint2]

Umbra won't be merced.

ADL is an annoying bastard, requires tome farming and then can screw you when he multiplies.

The only reason to Merc is to afford items like Relics, all Merc groups have Relics of their own to worry about.

SEs best bet is to make it drop off Multiple Dynamis bosses.

[Raksha]

Umbra won't be merced.

Everything is/can be merced.

Except maybe things which can only be done solo.

Maybe.

[Tamoa]

I honestly don't see Umbra being merced. For the amount of effort/people involved, plus the chance of picking the wrong clone and everything going straight to hell from there on, the price tag is going to be huge if so.

[Khajit]

The number picked for mythic alexandrites is unrealistic because people were cheating like hell and tripling drops in salvage. It should be 1/3 of what it is at least before we even get into the lv 99 stuff.

[Kieron]

Wow the devs are pretty damn clueless. FFXI in its current state should not have long, strenuous, time sink trials that benefit one person. They really just don't get it.

Also, an update is supposed to be an update. Gimping the hell out of everything and upgrading (very minuscule upgrades) stupid abilities that go unused is not an update. Players should be saying "Oh cool something new!" instead of "Oh god please don't gimp anything...".

Anyways, I hear SWTOR is great btw.

[Prothscar]

Wow the devs are pretty damn clueless. FFXI in its current state should not have long, strenuous, time sink trials that benefit one person. They really just don't get it.

Also, an update is supposed to be an update. Gimping the hell out of everything and upgrading (very minuscule upgrades) stupid abilities that go unused is not an update. Players should be saying "Oh cool something new!" instead of "Oh god please don't gimp anything...".

Anyways, I hear SWTOR is great btw.

SWTOR is pretty bad, play RIFT

[Tamoa]

I still say you're buying those items at your own risk when the trial hasn't been implemented in the game, and it's still uncertain what the amount will be - for each or just one stage, who knows.

[Nala]

yeah just looked it up due to some one saying that, i didnt realize he could keep spawning clones... thats total crap also thats not correct math its more like .5^x where is x the amount of times you get a clone...