Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Damane]

The people that say they are quitting, I doubt it's solely because of this. They're just done with the BS.

This pritty much sums it up. We have been given only slaps into the face lately.

[JofJAX]

I seriously don't understand what the dev team is thinking with this trial. 20 items with hundreds of relic owners after them is a major oversight... Change it to 20 ADL Kills and everyone will be happy...

[Zarchery]

Can we negotiate with Tanka? So that, like, he'll release my wife and children from his evil clutches in exchange for 750 Umbral Marrow instead of 1000?

Wait what? Tanaka isn't an evil overlord who kidnapped my wife and children and is threatening to kill them? He's just a game developer and this is all a video game that people are supposed to play for fun? Sorry. I guess I got confused by the temperature of some of these posts.

[Alhanelem]

SE really needs to realize that even the most hardcore players who are most likely to complete these trials, do not want to have to spend every waking minute working on them, and not be able to play any other content.

[Heabea]

i like the PW thing... for 500 PW, you need 35.5m Zeni if my math is correct (this assumes u buy 9 1k t1, 9 2k t2, 9 3k t3, 3 4k t4, 1 5k pw). Let's say you get 100 per plate like you do now, that's 355k plates. You can hand in 10 per game day, so that's 35.5k game days. Let's say you hand in for all 24hrs of the day cuz ur cool like that's 1480 real life days. that's 4yrs and 2 months roughly...

I know that the number of zeni per photo will go up like Camate said, but what 1k per photo, still 148 full days, or if u just hand in half the amount u can in a day, 300 days...

Seriously dev team you already had some issues with press and PW before, want another one with this stuff too?

[Nala]

Having both stage 1 and 2 trials require the same items is a very bad idea.

very bad idea. very bad idea. very bad idea. very bad idea. [SIZE="5"]very bad idea.[/SIZE] [SIZE="6"]very bad idea.[/SIZE] [SIZE="7"]very bad idea.[/SIZE]

i thought i'd try and be subtle... hope they get the hint.

@Heabea you forgot to factor in the 500 zeni charge for all members participating in a TIV, so lets say 6-12 that can be 3-6k x 3 so 9-18k more zeni and i dont recall if PW himself reqires zeni to reach but if so factor that in now...

[Heabea]

I meant to write that i didn't add that in, but yeah it's another 750k per person lol... then again u can do multiple at once if your not the only person popping

[Raksha]

Why not just buy the DL items?

I mean really, it doesn't seem all that bad.

If you changed it to killshot requirements then you'd have alliances with like 12 aegis PLD and 6 dual boxed whms.

Good luck killing arch DL with that

[Psxpert2011]

Such is not the deffinition of an MMO sadly. Most are simply just people playing the same thing.

... believe this?

There is, actually. This is a MMORPG. It's meant to be played with other people. Having an AoE effect will help your party and thus help you. For people wanting epeen, this is useless (even counterproductive), for people wanting efficiency and a weapon that will help their party, linkshell and friends, and by extension themselves, this is pretty cool. If only the AoE effect wasn't sucky, that is, but that's another issue altogether. There's nothing wrong with the logic behind this. And if it's at all doable in the future I'll also try to get to this point.

Not the definition that makes obvious sense to some human beings but yeah, your absolutely right! Motivation and cooperative community driven, even if it's just a sprinkle. Some just don't get it.

[Nynja]

Why not just buy the DL items?

I mean really, it doesn't seem all that bad.

If you changed it to killshot requirements then you'd have alliances with like 12 aegis PLD and 6 dual boxed whms.

Good luck killing arch DL with that

Let me know whens the last time you found Umbral items for sale...