Do they have plans on making any other summons worthwhile?

[Annalise]

-If you want to do physical damage then you'll use Garuda (ecliptic bite damage did somewhere close to predator, but something changed since then)
-If you want to keep your avatar out for TP bonuses for nukes then garuda and shiva are options.
-If you are fighting a fight where you kite, then you'll consider diabolos 500dmg, titan, or using /assault to keep the avatar moving.. in that case it's garuda.
-If you want to buff melees then garuda, titan, ifrit, and the option of keeping out ramuh/ifrit BUT bp with garuda.
-If you want to play back row then you can use diabolos, garuda, and whatever else you want.
-If you wan to solo, what would you use?

See the pattern?

Personally i'd like to do other trials but i find that summons are mainly situational and that the job itself is situational unlike most of the 17 other jobs. Making some changes like auras (swap titan from sixtyish def to -pdt, fenrir's magic evasion should be +200 or swap to -mdt, leviathan from magic accuracy to conserve mp or something) as well as scaling up pet damage since the old formula for pet damage is in consideration for their job type which is blm. I think the stats of some pets should be reconsidered and scaled to use.

Turning fenrir into a faster and harder hitting pet (can he have his bcnm flee speed too please? i hate seeing him trail a mob frolicking through the grass taking detours instead of straight lines) and diabolos ranged attack scaled to do a bit more than drain 2 would be a great start.

Eclipse Bite was never close to Predator Claws. And Chaotic Strike and Spinning Dive were also always better than Eclipse Bite. The only thing that probably wasn't was rush, which is terrible. But especially on blunt things, Chaotic strike can do well too, and it stuns. 'Predator claws only' makes me think of things like THF spamming evisceration only outside abyssea (crit hit mentality these days), and not remembering that WS like DE usually outperform it.

Any avatar can melee fine for TP for merit pacts. If you have a 5/5, emp neck, and emp legs +2, most will be hitting 300 tp or close to it by the time you BP. Yeah, garuda can hit faster with haste (and I do have 5/5 wind blade from forever ago which i may switch) but a 5/5 pact is going to be at about the same anyways.

If you are fighting a kited monster and it doesn't resist one of fire/wind/thunder/earth/water/ice, then a 5/5 merit bloodpact will probably beat anything else you can use. It definitely will crush Diabolos, and it has much more range than missing several physical pacts and wasting time.

Hastega is a good buff, but if you have people being hasted by mages anyways it kind of is useless. Inferno Howl is nuts outside abyssea on jobs like THF and NIN, who hit faster and weaker.

I'm not sure why anyone would really want to use diabolos 'back row' unless using something like dream shroud. Diabolos is pretty lacking these days. And if you're idling for refresh, either fix your setup, or get a bard or something.

Garuda is good solo. But the case can be made for many avatars.

Leviathan tanks pretty well solo with slowga/tidal roar and better healing than garuda. Spinning dive is less powerful usually than Predator claws but his survivability is higher.

Ramuh has good survivability with Chaotic Strike stun, shock spikes mini and inconsistent stuns, and shock squall's stun.

Etc.

And Fenrir already has higher base damage and less delay. He is the highest DPS auto attack avatar. You may mean movement speed and stronger bloodpacts, though. Either way, yeah, fenrir could use a nice strong bloodpact.

[Babekeke]

Fenrir can come close to PC, but only on birds etc. that get the 25% damage boost from piercing. Add the better DoT that Fenrir has over the other Avatars, and the fact that you can boost his acc/eva and all stats depending on the moon phase, and when endrain is up, he can even heal himself some. The extra DoT and stats boost won't make up for less damage on BP rage when not on piercing mobs though.

[Annalise]

Fenrir can come close to PC, but only on birds etc. that get the 25% damage boost from piercing. Add the better DoT that Fenrir has over the other Avatars, and the fact that you can boost his acc/eva and all stats depending on the moon phase, and when endrain is up, he can even heal himself some. The extra DoT and stats boost won't make up for less damage on BP rage when not on piercing mobs though.

Eclipse bite is Slashing, not piercing.

Cresent fang (which is a level 10 bloodpact) is piercing. So Predator claws is well ahead of eclipse bite on birds (and everything else) and crescent fang is weak damage wise.

The endrain is pretty terrible. Every little bit helps but it's low. Not only that, if it give aspir instead, it's useless for fenrir.

Yeah, he can get a bit of an acc boost. And slight stat boost. But that's not going to make up for it. This is why people use Garuda, Leviathan, etc. over Fenrir.

[Malamasala]

Fenrir is the best/second best for DoT though, if you were to not use BPs. Attacks faster and harder. Though not as fast as a hasted garuda, so not sure if Garuda still wins when hasted.

[Annalise]

Fenrir is the best/second best for DoT though, if you were to not use BPs. Attacks faster and harder. Though not as fast as a hasted garuda, so not sure if Garuda still wins when hasted.

Yeah I said in the previous post:

And Fenrir already has higher base damage and less delay. He is the highest DPS auto attack avatar.

Fenrir has the highest base DPS.

But yeah, adding in hastega for garuda ups hers a bit. And Ifrit's inferno howl is so strong, if not being resisted, that he will likely beat fenrir. It does ~40 damage a hit. Ramuh's isn't as strong but his will be a bit higher as well, definitely above Leviathan/Shiva/Titan/Diabolos/Carbuncle.

If you're not using any bloodpacts at all, Fenrir is probably the best choice (except on things that spam, say, lightning element stuff. Then Titan/Ramuh are better).

On anything that you're using bloodpacts on, the Celestials will almost, if not always, beat fenrir.