[dev1047] Thoughts/Feedback on "Legion"

[Kimble]

Who ever said this needs to be drug out into the street and shot as a demonstration.

This is the absolute WORST idea ever created in any MMO that has ever existed.

Its not a bad idea. Its only bad when items have a very low drop rate.

[Economizer]

Its only bad when items have a very low drop rate.

The whole R/E gear bit was part of it too in my opinion, although removing that EX tag makes it so people are more encouraged to bring mules instead of inviting someone else.

[Prothscar]

There's nothing wrong with individual rewards, and there's nothing wrong with the drop rates, the problem lies in the distribution of the loot that drops. You could get 3 bodies in one run, but if all three of those bodies go to the same person...

[Alhanelem]

People on the test server (using smaller than the minimum required group, like 5 people or so) have reported being able to kill some of the monsters.

Mind you, these are NM-like mobs. It's not like you're fighting a jillion trash mobs as in dynamis or something. It's not going to be a walk in the park if you go with a small gorup, because you'll be in big trouble if you link/aggro mobs. But I imagine people will be able to do well enough with a less-than-full alliance.

Camate; i think the most number of people anyone wants to do anything with anymore is one alliance. This should be built for 6-18 people, not 18-36. nyzul Isle is for 3-6; i think the former is considered "large group" and the latter "small group" by player standards.

[Keyln]

People on the test server (using smaller than the minimum required group, like 5 people or so) have reported being able to kill some of the monsters.

Mind you, these are NM-like mobs. It's not like you're fighting a jillion trash mobs as in dynamis or something. It's not going to be a walk in the park if you go with a small gorup, because you'll be in big trouble if you link/aggro mobs. But I imagine people will be able to do well enough with a less-than-full alliance.

Camate; i think the most number of people anyone wants to do anything with anymore is one alliance. This should be built for 6-18 people, not 18-36. nyzul Isle is for 3-6; i think the former is considered "large group" and the latter "small group" by player standards.

Player standards are too low then. Back in the heyday of ToAU, events like Dynamis and Einjerhar were large group events, requiring multiple alliances and linkshells to tackle.

I think it's rather nice and refreshing to see a new large scale event again. We haven't seen any of those since ToAU.

[Corwin]

2007 XI =! 2012 XI

[Arcon]

2007 XI =! 2012 XI

Sadly, you're right. But it can be again.

[Kimble]

Sadly, you're right. But it can be again.

You'd need that type of player base to grow. Its going to be something that steady happens though. As it stands, the only 2 events right now that you would even use a large scale ls to do is Voidwatch *(can be done in shout) and this new Legion. If they keep adding more events like it, I can see large scale LS coming back. As of now, there just isnt enough content to support that again.

[Arcon]

You'd need that type of player base to grow. Its going to be something that steady happens though. As it stands, the only 2 events right now that you would even use a large scale ls to do is Voidwatch *(can be done in shout) and this new Legion. If they keep adding more events like it, I can see large scale LS coming back. As of now, there just isnt enough content to support that again.

That's why I said, it could be again. The reaction from this thread shows that people in general wouldn't mind large scale events coming back (of course, some people are opposed to it too, but overall I feel that most people in here welcome this change). SE still needs to release the dungeon crawl system they announced, it will probably be something in the same vein as this. Not to mention the Einherjar overhaul (Einherjar requires some people even now), and possibly even the Limbus overhaul. I can see large scale LS events coming back (it certainly sounds like SE wants them to).

[Kimble]

Einherjar I can give you. Limbus, not so much. Was never needed to be large scale and most shells I was in didn't even do it because smaller limbus groups existed.

Content like this will either bring it back, or kill off whats left of the player base because most of the player base (at least on the server I was on) would much rather stay in small groups. If the game goes back to being a schedule and not able to do events as you wish freely on your time, I don't know how much longer it will last. Its best hope is that it some how brings back the players that liked that system from 2002-2008.