[dev1047] Thoughts/Feedback on "Legion"

[saevel]

I wouldn't mind large scale LS events as much if SE gave us more LS tools. I would join a pug for this. Not much reason not to. Starting one might be less attractive but its only 360k , people are spending more then that on VWNM right now with pugs. If you can go everyday or as many times you want I could see this becoming a pug event.

The loot drops into a centralized treasure pool, meaning you'll be lotting against everyone else who might one day ~think~ they need your drop. At least with a shell doing it there is some form of loot control. 360K/18 = 20K each, that's ridiculously cheap. 10K if you can somehow get a full 36 man group going on. So while its possible to PUG it, endgame LS's are the ones who are going to cleaning house the most with this event.

[Ravenmore]

The loot drops into a centralized treasure pool, meaning you'll be lotting against everyone else who might one day ~think~ they need your drop. At least with a shell doing it there is some form of loot control. 360K/18 = 20K each, that's ridiculously cheap. 10K if you can somehow get a full 36 man group going on. So while its possible to PUG it, endgame LS's are the ones who are going to cleaning house the most with this event.

Whats so differant then pick +2 mobs that people shout for for the emp.weapon items. The person buying the KI will most likely lock the item they want while even one else gets to join in on a free shot at it and not to mention everyone gets points for going. The only thing that would really stop this from being puged wide spread is if you can only go 2 times a week. If not and if the point items are decent to good then why would you wait around for your LS that might have VWNM and other events to do.

[saevel]

Whats so differant then pick +2 mobs that people shout for for the emp.weapon items. The person buying the KI will most likely lock the item they want while even one else gets to join in on a free shot at it and not to mention everyone gets points for going. The only thing that would really stop this from being puged wide spread is if you can only go 2 times a week. If not and if the point items are decent to good then why would you wait around for your LS that might have VWNM and other events to do.

Umm because the person "buying" the +2 is there for one thing only and plans to spam them. In this case you have a ton of NMs and loot droping and knowing SE their gonna make the good stuff rare and only off a later NM. Meaning whomever is "buying" is going to lock the good item that everyone else wants. And if not, then your lotting against at least 16 others for your body. Just imagine VWNM where ~one~ body can possibly drop to the alliance loot pool, the amount of douche baggery that would proceed would be legendary. I can fully see a BLM D2ing someone who out loted them, just to get their body and take off.

[Ravenmore]

Umm because the person "buying" the +2 is there for one thing only and plans to spam them. In this case you have a ton of NMs and loot droping and knowing SE their gonna make the good stuff rare and only off a later NM. Meaning whomever is "buying" is going to lock the good item that everyone else wants. And if not, then your lotting against at least 16 others for your body. Just imagine VWNM where ~one~ body can possibly drop to the alliance loot pool, the amount of douche baggery that would proceed would be legendary. I can fully see a BLM D2ing someone who out loted them, just to get their body and take off.

And is that any differant then any LS drama. I seen the same thing happen in Endgame shells being in a LS doesn't stop people like that. On top of you missed the other point if the cool down is not 72 hours and the point items are decent just going with a LS won't cut it if they don't go everyday and spam it.

Then you misunder stood the pick up +2 groups going cause the guy shouting is offering those up to lock the emp.items. He may only have one pop but he still gets people going.

[saevel]

And is that any differant then any LS drama. I seen the same thing happen in Endgame shells being in a LS doesn't stop people like that. On top of you missed the other point if the cool down is not 72 hours and the point items are decent just going with a LS won't cut it if they don't go everyday and spam it.

Then you misunder stood the pick up +2 groups going cause the guy shouting is offering those up to lock the emp.items. He may only have one pop but he still gets people going.

One pop huh ... yeah. I'm not sure what game your playing, but people shouting for Emp items don't do one pop, everyone gets a pop and you do 4~6 of them minimum.

And while LS drama can happen, EVERY PUG is the equivalent of LS drama. The item you want drops, you have 16 other people lotting against you. Meaning you need to beat at least 8 of them assuming you get 500 as a lot. Much less competition in an LS for your gear and you tend to find more competent people.

It's like I said, you'll see PUG's for this, but LS's will be the ones cleaning out on the gear. It's just Einerjar v2.0.

[Evilaion1]

This sounds awesome. I just hope it's instanced, so more then 1 group can participate at any given time, but that's wishful thinking. Will also probably be enter once per real life day or some bs.
Aside from that, would still be cool to have some sort of content that makes having an end game LS more then just a social LS, like they ae now.

[Alhanelem]

This sounds awesome. I just hope it's instanced, so more then 1 group can participate

Nothing in the game is has or ever will be instanced.

Battlefields are not really isntanced, there are a set number of them available and once htey are all full no one else can go in. The same is most likely the case for this area.

[Kimble]

Its not going to really bring back large scale linkshells because there simply isnt enough content to do that is large scale. You are going to make a group at most that will go around the same time. If you get 18-36 people in your shell, what else are you going to do? Everything else is built around low man in the game and as it stands with voidwatch, people tried to make linkshells based around that and most failed.

If all content from here on out is large scale based, make those type of linkshells will come back, but for now, most people will either A) Shout. B) Have smaller groups merge together to accomplish the event.

As long as there are enough shouters doing it, no one will want to make it based around linkshells.

[wish12oz]

I look forward to doing a large scale event like this again. I always liked einherjar simply for the fun of parsing against others and competing with them in that aspect. I hope this brings that back, and has no proc system ruining it. I might even have to look for a real LS of people to play with for this event.

[Greatguardian]

Its not going to really bring back large scale linkshells because there simply isnt enough content to do that is large scale. You are going to make a group at most that will go around the same time. If you get 18-36 people in your shell, what else are you going to do? Everything else is built around low man in the game and as it stands with voidwatch, people tried to make linkshells based around that and most failed.

If all content from here on out is large scale based, make those type of linkshells will come back, but for now, most people will either A) Shout. B) Have smaller groups merge together to accomplish the event.

As long as there are enough shouters doing it, no one will want to make it based around linkshells.

I doubt it will bring new linkshells into the picture, but large linkshells from the past most certainly still exist today on Cerberus. ElectricMayhem, Teletubbies, KoN, and Armada can easily field the numbers for Legion unless something dramatic has changed that I don't know about. If CaptainCaveman, WhirlingWind, or the Nerfed Reshell still exist, they might be able to participate as well with some minor recruitment.

Most of these shells have survived the past year without any large group events at all. They're just a collection of people who enjoy doing events together. Most already have their own mini-groups and cliques that do lowman events, with the whole shell only gathering for large-scale NMs like Voidwatch anyways. New large-scale content only gives them something to do as a linkshell again, which is hardly a bad thing.

Besides, I can't imagine the headache it would be to try to deal with rare treasure pooled drops in a pickup setting. There's a reason people didn't do pickup Fafnirs.