[dev1047] Thoughts/Feedback on "Legion"

[wish12oz]

I look forward to doing a large scale event like this again. I always liked einherjar simply for the fun of parsing against others and competing with them in that aspect. I hope this brings that back, and has no proc system ruining it. I might even have to look for a real LS of people to play with for this event.

[Raesvelg]

The loot system more than anything else seems to be what will push this more towards a large-scale LS event rather than a VW-styled PUG event.

It's also notably different from a Abyssea pick-up group setting, since at least in Abyssea you have the option to kick someone who lots something they're not supposed to. For Legion, once you're in, you can lot whatever you want, for as long as you're in the zone.

So yeah. Given the fact that most people in the game now have 5+ jobs they want to have geared at all times, and often considerably more that they play on at least a casual basis, having some sort of system in place to regulate who gets what is going to be nearly a necessity.

Unless, of course, the content is very carefully scaled and a small group of 4-6 can kill just as many monsters as a group of 36. Which, to be honest, I find highly unlikely.

[Drivont]

This sounds like some top tier FOV/GOV stuff, since the Key Item is called a "Legion Tome Page"

[Tile]

This sounds like some top tier FOV/GOV stuff, since the Key Item is called a "Legion Tome Page"

more along the line of the Dioramas, you know the Ballista battle fields where the guy says hes going to cast mini on you and put you in alittle model he made.

[nomanni]

hey guys why the complaining and optimizim YOU CANT GET INTO LEGION YET ON TS . ITS GLITCHED . so i sujest u try it before knocking it

[Alhanelem]

I can imagine any other event that didn't involve procs wouldn't include other jobs like this. It would be nice to have an event that favored all jobs.

You don't need procs to include other jobs. You need those other jobs to simply be able to perform at the level of the others. You just got lucky that someone would let you come PUP- most linkshells wouldn't do it even for the procs. You can only have 18 out of 20 jobs maximum anyway, so three guesses which ones get left out the most?

They should need to add a contrived, artificial battle mechanic to get other jobs included. Those jobs should be included because of the things they are capable of, not because someone said "OK, there's a 10% chance you're going to need Stringing Pummel to get more loot. Bring more PUPs!"

[Khajit]

I don't like the size of it at all. It encourages large scale linkshells. It puts all but about 1( can be higher due to mules/friends) at the mercy of what could be very well an absolute twat. That's not getting into the old rule of the more people you have the more likely there is a complete buffoon who will completely fuck everything up via stupidity.

I liked how VW gave you an individual chest but hated the rest of their loot implementation.(getting drops you already had and cant give it to anyone, 0.00000000000001% drop rates and logs everywhere else) They could have found a nice medium and made it so that anything not taken out of a personal chest goes into a groupwide lootpool when the chest despawns.

[Concerned4FFxi]

Can just go with a ls that all players pay towards the pop item, i.e. 18 players pay 20k gil each.

Also, my only concern about the gear here is if it outdates the VW gear, which would beg the question as to why the VW drop rates are so low if this event drops better gear and more of it. I got no problem with VW drop rates, as long as this new legion stuff doesnt outdate the good rare/ex peices from the higher VW tiers. I'm hoping new 99 earrings and rings can drop from here or be bought with points.

I agree this content is needed, and soon, but I hate the way things are being outdated so fast.

[Ravenmore]

Can just go with a ls that all players pay towards the pop item, i.e. 18 players pay 20k gil each.

Also, my only concern about the gear here is if it outdates the VW gear, which would beg the question as to why the VW drop rates are so low if this event drops better gear and more of it. I got no problem with VW drop rates, as long as this new legion stuff doesnt outdate the good rare/ex peices from the higher VW tiers. I'm hoping new 99 earrings and rings can drop from here or be bought with points.

I agree this content is needed, and soon, but I hate the way things are being outdated so fast.

It won't outdate the old gear. VWNM is bearly better then the gear we already had. It will all be side-grades with just enough to get the people that hate VWNM to get into it or for peolpe to do both if it has gear that VWNM doesn't have for a slot. Its no differant then Salvage and sky back at 75. Salvage was the new kid but people still did both because the gear from sky was still good.

[Wystan]

To be honest depending on how the loot system works i would like it to out class the stuff that takes a lifetime to see only for it to be chucked into the abyss.
I'm not saying that all the hard work people put into getting their stuff should be nulled but at least make this stuff good enough for people to want it more than they want to go 0/9999999999999.

Yea i haven't even bothered with VW or much of the grind that is magin trials i just don't enjoy it that much. I look forward to this new "end game" as i looked forward to doing dyna and sky but never got the chance to try it as it was.
Would be nice to be part of a battle that actually feels like an ff fight you know dd's deal damage and healers heal we all do our bit and get some nice rewards at the end. Not sorry bud your job feeds too much tp go sit over there and run in for the proc when we say ok. Can't there be a fight where every job is useful in different ways using our unique ability's to further the group?