[dev1047] Thoughts/Feedback on "Legion"

[Taint2]

Why would someone shout for Legion? It's pretty clearly a large linkshell based event, which means people who are already members are going to be going even if they don't have MNK/WAR.

If the belief of many posters around here is to be held true, then many linkshells will need to begin recruitment drives in order to hit the 1-2 alliance quota anyways so it's not like they'll be stingy enough to only accept Mnk/War applications.

Personally, I have a shell that can still easily field 18+ extremely competent players at an event assuming people actually have something to do and a motivation to do it. I know of at least a half dozen other shells on my server that can do the same.

Same reason VW is shout groups for the most part.

I prefer the shout group style over a large shell. There are always numerous VW shouts in Jeuno, you can pick one that fits your needs. It also allows you to ignore the shouts and do whatever else you wanted to do. LSs have events and scheduled times which is a big difference.

I'll be leading shout alliances for this, hope you join some

[saevel]

You guys aren't thinking clearly about the size vs rewards scaling.

You better hope and pray it doesn't dilute your rewards if your a bigger group, otherwise then it'll become the same as XP / Merits during the 75 era. People will only choose specific jobs to maximize damage potential and thus kill speed for whatever optimal group size is determined and you'll have the same people crying all over again. Look at abyssea, once people figured out the optimal group sizes they then became ultra paranoid about bringing anyone else because every additional person is someone you must share your loot with.

Honestly, as much as your stamping and screaming, this is just a re-invention of LS end-game content. They have lowman content in abyssea, they have PUG content via voidwatch, this is just their recreation of big LS content.

[Alhanelem]

You better hope and pray it doesn't dilute your rewards if your a bigger group

The way it's described, it sounds like it's specifically made so that more people = better, likely intending to break the trend that every piece of content is done with the fewest people that can possible win it.

[Zaknafein]

Very happy to see LS sized content back. As far as there being no shells left who can field enough members to do 18-36 man content speak for yourself. I know of at least 4 off the top of my head on my server (Bahamut) and that is just the NA shells. I'm sure there are a few JP shells capable of this sort of content also. Btw it usually helps if you don't generalize what the "playerbase" currently is. Best to stick to speaking of your own server that you have direct knowledge of.

There has been nothing but low man friendly events introduced since the level cap went up from 75. SE is even apparently including a low man aspect into Legion to some extent. Honestly anyone whining about this being tailored for large groups just sounds ridiculous.

[brayen]

Wish they could give more details. Biggest concern is the size of the event. i am betting 3 could kill something/ get something done...but with the possibility of taking up to two alliances, i am betting it will be a HUGE gil sink for the time invested to actually go with a group of friends <3-6> forcing you to go with a huge pick up of rejects/uninformed players just to hope to grab something of value<even if it is just the tokens/points> All in all i hope they reconsider this point as anything over 6 people has always been a mess and/or a large consumption of time just to get the players gathered<see VW shouts taking an hr to fill up if not more>

[darkhorror]

This looks like a great event from the info. it's a short event, can bring lots of players, and fight a bunch of HNM's. I can't wait to try this out when it starts up. It's been a long time since we have had an event that requires more than 18, finally our LS will have an event where people won't have to sit out.

[Zyla420]

one thing i think is going to be an issue is the entry fee. i think it should operate more like limbus, where everyone pays a small fee for entrance. otherwise i can see the whole "I paid the entrance fee, all the drops go to me, you just get points" argument comin up. it'll be dynamis all over again.

[Coldbrand]

What the Hell are you talking about? All I do everyday is Voidwatch with, get this: 18 people.

[CrAZYVIC]

SE is trying reborn the "End game"

How handle this kind the stuff?

Just dont fucking Panic when SE say "Neeed massive amount of people"

A competent group in my opinion will be cleaning the first tiers without problems. Only the last tiers will need massive amount of people.

Im sure 4 strongs DDS, whm, Cor, Brd, 1 sleeper and Perfect defense will be owning here.
For normal Mobs keep your DDS buffeds and sleep the adds
For the Mega boss Perfect Defense, bard 2 hour and zerg it down, if a rdm is present Chainspell stun while the zerg.


If your have a Small Linkshell 6 - 10 "skilled" players you will be rocking here!
So dont panic, only is necesary know how handle einherjar/Dynamis STuff.

I hate say this but "Low man groups are 6 - 9 people". Some people want MONK + WHM duo 90% the stuff or say Ohhh noezzz not iss casual, if u want duo/trio 95% the game Go play a RPG Offline.


The Good

Will bring challenge and place for use the full potential of jobs lv 99.

The BAD

DRG, MONK, THF, NIN, PUP, BLU, BST Will be discrimed again here -_-.

The horrible&stupid mentality of SAM ONRY and "maybe" WAR&DRK if you have a empyreal will return :_:.

People want Duo everything probably will quit after of see is necesary as minimiun 8 ppl, great players will be lossed here just because they refuse play with more than 3 people.


Talking about progression ration and drop system.

Tamoa gave a idea some months ago.
The idea She/He gave was awesome in my opinion.
Lets say i receive 2000 points per win.

The luxury armor i need cost 100k points. I know already how many time i need grind this new system for obtain my armor, no more "Random Coffer rewards" that sux.

If the full set the armor i want cost

75k Head
100k Body
75K hands
75k Legs
75k feet
50k per ring
50k earring

I know after some months playing this event im gona Pimp my character and then the "Grind feels worth"

"I hope the DEVS reconsider and dont implement the VW/WoE drop system or that will ruin the progression ratio and will be a fail like VW"

[Alhanelem]

The price should be paid per person, instead of one person having to foot the 360k gil price. Make it 10-12k a person with each person paying, instead. Since you get more stuff with more people, it makes more sense not to have to pay the full price with fewer.

A competent group in my opinion will be cleaning the first tiers without problems. Only the last tiers will need massive amount of people.

It doesn't have tiers. It just has three different battlefields.