[dev 1065] Relic/Mythic/Empyrean 99 step 2 Trails unrealistic

[Nicholiathan]

I have been working on my Excalibur for around five years now. I have not bought but a few of my coins. It's been an up hill slog all the way but I've always had hope of accomplishing this task. I am not a hard core player. I have a family and a job that require some of my time. Nor do I have the patience to spend more than a few hours at a time. Square Enix is now saying "The corresponding Magian trials will be exceedingly difficult to complete, such that only a select number of PCs will be able to upgrade weapons to this stage." I'll translate that into English "Fuck you! You don't deserve a shot at this item because you are not elite. You have no right to finish what you started because you're not good enough. Just because you pay the same amount of money to us as everyone else does not entitle you to a fair chance of accomplishing your goals." I really don't care about the warning or ban I get from this post. Square Enix's hatred of their player's fills me with such rage that where I to properly express it I would serve serious jail time for the acts of heinous violence that it would drive me to. And with that I'm going to go start my anger management excercises.

[Daniel]

If everyone had the very best, what would be the point in getting the very best. Personally I have to thank SE for giving us access to the level 99 weapon without the afterglow effect. And to the last guy, if not being able to get the very best for minimal work pisses you off this much, why are you still playing this game...?

[saarek]

If everyone had the very best, what would be the point in getting the very best. Personally I have to thank SE for giving us access to the level 99 weapon without the afterglow effect. And to the last guy, if not being able to get the very best for minimal work pisses you off this much, why are you still playing this game...?

Maybe because i'm in it

[drwaffles]

I think part of the reason that people get annoyed about these ridiculous trial requirements is because it indicates that the dev team aren't doing their jobs properly. If you look at the numbers (especially for the Mythic 99 trials) it's fairly clear that these aren't just trials that cater to hardcore players - the absolutely mind-boggling amount of time they take and their monotony just goes to show how little thought went into their conception.

For God's sake, even amidst the no-life culture of the ground kings years people would sometimes make jokes about hypothetical pieces of gear that went something like: "yeah, I bet SE adds a STR+40 earring one day, but I bet you need to kill AV 100 times for it or something". Killing PW 500 times reads like something someone said as a joke. I doubt it was intended as a joke; I'd wager it was merely a suggestion that was offered as a result of the devs not even bothering to research how long the trials would theoretically take. 12 hours a day for ten years? If you live to 60, that's almost 17% of your entire life spent on a blue glow for a weapon in an MMO that no one has really taken seriously since 2008.

These trials might not affect you, but the dev team's attitude towards FFXI certainly does. And if these preposterous trials are anything to go by, they're not taking FFXI's development very seriously at all.

[Nicholiathan]

If everyone had the very best, what would be the point in getting the very best. Personally I have to thank SE for giving us access to the level 99 weapon without the afterglow effect. And to the last guy, if not being able to get the very best for minimal work pisses you off this much, why are you still playing this game...?

Minimal work? I've worked hard for the progress I've made. Almost every one of the coins I've acquired for my upgrades I've earned. I've not bought but 3 or 4 100's throughout this ordeal. In order go be fair to my friends my partner and I spend countless hours farming in order pay our friends for their help in farming runs. Twice a week I come home sleep 4 hours wake up to run Dyanamis-Valkrum and then squeeze in another 4 hours sleep. That takes a toll on your body. People like you make me sick. The French and the Bolsheviks had the right right response to Elitists. I spend $18 per month on this game. I don't care if the task is hard. I don't care that it takes years. But I really want a pay off for all the hard work I've put in. And as Saarek said there is that other reason I continue to play <3.

[Daniel]

I am not an elitest at all, I am far from elite. I do however realize that some people live on this game, and want something to prove it. But then people like you show up, and say boohoo I can't have the shiny afterglow effect. WHO CARES... its a stupid afterglow effect, can't you just let it go? We all know the people going for these things have nothing else to feel good about, why can't you just let them have it.

not really gonna comment much on the time you spent getting a relic, because these days you could find yourself a partner and both show off your shinny new relics 4 months later (240 hours of farming). I think I spent 4X that many hours just trying to get my Duelist chap -.-

But hey, thanks for reminding me why I stay away from these forums, its like arguing with a hippy.

[Meril]

You guys really arent putting much thought into anything, just rage ranting... first of all they clearly show a picture of PW in "Nyzule Isle: the Uncharted Reigon" 2nd "Leigon" is a battlefield where you will fight these same NM's and they will have a shared pool for lots. The difficulty is the shear # of how many you will need to upgrade, not the drop rate or how rare the items are... Some ppl are really gonna be pissed and ranting when the realized they've been waisting all this time farming zeni when you encounter PW on a nyzul run ROFL

[Kitkat]

You guys really arent putting much thought into anything, just rage ranting... first of all they clearly show a picture of PW in "Nyzule Isle: the Uncharted Reigon" 2nd "Leigon" is a battlefield where you will fight these same NM's and they will have a shared pool for lots. The difficulty is the shear # of how many you will need to upgrade, not the drop rate or how rare the items are... Some ppl are really gonna be pissed and ranting when the realized they've been waisting all this time farming zeni when you encounter PW on a nyzul run ROFL

Um, you have done Nyzul Isle before right? You do know they have Khimera, Hydra, and Cerb in there too, yeah? Then you must also know that absolutely none of these mobs drop anything the HNM version drops also. This goes without saying that any of these versions in Nyzul will react in the same way. They will have drops, but they will not be similar to their HNM/ZNM counterparts as they are a totally different mob in a confined instance battle.

[Alhanelem]

I just wish everyone would leave it be. No one needs to glow that bad and complaining is just going to get shit "balanced"

If nobody needs the glow, and nobody who wants the glow can get it, then why does it exist in the first place? That's part of the problem.

[Unctgtg]

Really SE, the more your development team opens their mouth, the more they sound like the US government. Complete morons. This is completely and utter disrespectful to your player base. We have tried to level with you, but of course your team is lost. We propose simple easy changes and you are doing exactly what you did during beta in 14. NOTHING and implementing your own ideas. Your changes should be one of the following.

1 item needed
10000 Kills of any mob.
10 ADL Team Kills.

Tell your development team to stop working on changes to the game that are worthless and dead. If not I will be taking my 60 dollars a month to another game, and I am sure I am not the only one. Remember the customer is always right. We are trying to make your company better but when you continue to ignore your own supporters, it is really not a good business practice.