Smaller subscription fees for smaller dev team

[fxp7]

I'll be on FFXI while I think it's worth playing. However, I decided I'm not gong to play FFXIV or any other SE MMORPG game after this - no matter how good they turn out to be.

Trick me once, shame on you. Trick me twice, shame on me.

[Concerned4FFxi]

As for the 99 cap, there had better have been a better reason to have increased the level cap then just as a way to keep people around, because unbalancing the game and deading a majority of zones to have a 99 cap novelity is stupid. There better be a an add-on in the future, that makes the 99 cap make sense, and the last stand does count.

[Unleashhell]

fix game mechanics? the game has been the way it is for the last eleventy billion years and everyone has played it with all the things wrong with it. Would it be nice for them to fix it? yes, but with their small staff, and their inability to do what the windower group has done u might as well throw it out the window.

and VW is LOL its a friggin boss fight, thats hardly content and you need specific jobs to even do them. as far as relic +2 as i said in a post before the majority of the updates tend to be gear, more gear we dont have room for and mainly just macro pieces for lacking macros. i dont need more macro pieces, im already running around with 76/80 inventory because of macro pieces.

give us Sub, Sub jobs, new jobs, new missions, something that takes more than a game day (or week) to accomplish without mindless grinding, something that adds new flavor to the game, something that isnt the same ol same ol. It's the same ol same ol thats killing the game, people get tired of doing the same song and dance that they have been doing.

And when your done with the new content you will all be back here complaining again about having nothing to do. If all of you hate the game so much why do you even play? If everyone's outlook is the game is dead, the game sucks, the game will never have new content, the game costs too much... then why play? There are thousands of other games out there to play, if they are so much better go play them.

[autobot]

And when your done with the new content you will all be back here complaining again about having nothing to do. If all of you hate the game so much why do you even play? If everyone's outlook is the game is dead, the game sucks, the game will never have new content, the game costs too much... then why play? There are thousands of other games out there to play, if they are so much better go play them.

Actually I've already canceled one character, and this one expires at the end of the month. Had the price been lowered perhaps i would stick around on the days where i have nothing better to do but i cant justify spending $14 (or $27 with both characters) a month to not log on until they decide to add something fun to the game.

And ur damn right everyone will be complaining when there is nothing to do after new content is old and played out. When you pay a monthly subscription to an ONLINE game that is and can be forever changing/added upon and those changes and additions aren't there then what are u paying for? Servers? Electricity? FFXIV?

And if you want to agrue that we are paying for servers, electricity, etc to keep the hardware going, consider Starcraft, a game that's been out since 1998 and the battle.net servers are still running FREE of charge to play on. All the while starcraft has received updates/bug fixes/etc all without a monthly cost. The only thing you pay for is expansions.

And seriously why are people complaining about saving themselves money? All like "omg i don't like saving money why would i want to do that?".

[Mageoholic]

Maybe 11 will go FTP for a year after they fix and charge for 14.......ha ha ha one can dream (no one is going to play 14 anyway. It failed hard and should have been abandoned.)

[Rewyen]

Maybe a compromise could be to lower subscription costs to veteran players who have played for X amount of time, but then again as quickly as things can be accomplished these days with Abyssea exp gain, it doesn't take long to get to the level of a veteran player.

Level does not equal Veteran. I know a few level 99s that have been playing for like a month that couldn't tell you how to get to Carpenters Landing without a quick trip to wiki. It cannot be assumed that just because a player has a few high level jobs, that makes him or her eligible for a fee reduction because that is just a load of crap. I've played this game a total of six years, but had to restart my character, which is currently only @55, so how would it be fair for a newer player to get a fee reduction but not players like myself and hundreds of others who have restarted and could run circles around pretty much anyone wearing one of those ridiculous Destrier Berets?

It's $12 bucks. Deal with it or go play Guild Wars.

[RAIST]

actually, it's 12.95 every 30 days, technically now ~13.13 per month versus the previous 12.95 per month. So, actually the price has gone UP while the quality of service has stagnated, or in some cases gone DOWN.

[Dragoy]

I pay about 100€ more for two accounts per year now, actually, but that's more related to the fact that I used to be able to pay in USD instead of EUR, which I am forced to use now.
Might have been a bit of a cheat, but they made it possible back when, and so, the price for some people went up quite a bit while the content... yeah.

I did imagine I would likely be paying until the end, even if I would not actually play much if at all due to friends quitting, but I don't know... As of late, I've been leaning towards at least taking a break for a few due to the 'new' content and whatnot being non-attractive to the maximum.

I'm still carefully optimistic, and the game can still be fun fersure, if you have the friends to play it with (having more fun with the old content actually, than the newer).

Perhaps when FFXIV2.0 will hit off, and becomes a massive success, FFXI could see a smaller fee-tag under it. ^^;

[Akutenshi]

I honestly don't think using Starcraft is good example. Granted, you are right, game has been out for ages and it's free, but the people still releasing updates and whatnot is from a company that I feel is probably 5 times better than SE and more than often makes more than enough money to actually do that and do those updates, keep servers running etc. Keeping their player base happy keeps them coming back and playing more of their games so it's just a smart move on their part (besides that the games are fun and popular).

I don't see why people think that just because a game was developed 10 years ago means they are still using the same technology and server architecture. It's not that hard to shut the game down say during a maintenance and upgrade hardware and start everything back up. Granted, they don't do that all the time but I highly doubt they are still using equipment from when the game was released when servers and hardware have gotten so much better that not upgrading them would be stupid and less efficient.

I don't think that releasing new jobs would make a difference in a dying game. If a new job is released, how many of you actually think that with the state of the game now, people are going to actually slowly leveling a new job to get the satisfaction of leveling a job like back in the day? Now you could power level a job in like a day and then be done with it and back to square one. It would probably alleviate and add some freshness to a stale game, but not for long with the state of leveling and whatnot. I don't think they could do anything else that hey haven't done with the other jobs already.

What they need to do is add better, more engaging content. Not that stupid weakness targeting nonsense, or just a higher level rehash of old content, and add new areas. They said they can and PS2 isn't holding them back. While revisiting old content can be nice with rewards and nostalgia, it's still the same old same old for those of us that did it to the ground when they first was introduced. I feel they need to add new city missions, regular quests (with cutscenes not just text when you complete it), and new areas. SE had good story writers in the past, is it so hard to use them for new content to make people happy? I'm sure most people will agree that reusing old areas in whatever sense is just getting old.

I don't agree with lowering the price of the game, yet. If FFXIV can get where it should be, I think the smart move would be to get people to play that, then lower the cost of FFXI by like half or more. If their new game is going good, why would people play an old game that they don't really add much too? For now I'd rather pay them monthly to make whatever content and updates they can with their resources till they either a) get something better going with FFXIV or b) actually make FFXI a bit more enjoying to play again to make all this amount of time playing the game worth something again. If they slash costs of FFXI, I don't that will ever happen.

[Rewyen]

I hate to be the "I told ya so" dick, but....

About six years ago or so (can't remember when exactly, but it was right around the time we all found out about ToAU), the buzz was high about how awesome it was going to be, and when it did come out, it was amazing to be able to see new places. The problem was that everyone I knew was in such a rush to unlock BLU, PUP and COR, level them as fast as humanly possible (which back then was still a chore we all dreaded) and do as many of the missions as they could. I tried to tell these people that rushing through it would only bite them in the ass. The ones who typically quit this game first are the players who had crap like CoP done before half the server even knew what it was. Always in a rush, I see people. How many lv. 99s were there less than five hours after the update? And now what I see is the majority of players AFK in Port Jeuno waiting for Abyssea, and you know who the bored ones are?

They are the ones who actually get excited and jump at the idea of helping a random player get a Damslfly Worm just to do something besides wait.

My point is that I think this game would still be enjoyable to most players if they actually took their time. Better yet... start over. I know it sounds like an "omgwtflolbbq" thing to think about, but I did, and lemme tell you that it was a great decision. I took a big chunk of time away and came back and started from scratch and this time I actually paid attention to the storyline and took some time to just wander around and explore. It's so much better the second time around, plus you'll have plenty to keep you busy, and you'll always have something to do besides wait and get pissed about farming. Just a thought.