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    Player Urat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I can agree with those points. Should be some kind of bonus requirement. But remember things like obi's and gorgets already have you questing and farming them. So there's some work to be done.

    As for the point about DNC feet for example. Yes jig duration and step acc are two diff beasts, but to turn 2 pieces into 1 so it can be used in both macros would save inv (by 1 in this case). Again, another quest to combine them with currency/gil/crafting item/etc. But if you didn't already have the +1 feet, would you go do limbus to +1 them if you could combine them with relic? with emp? If the answer is yes, it breathes new life into an older event which seems to be what their doing now anyway.
    Issue is combining items like that makes them stronger, combined ele staves or obis doesnt do much because their two effects can never be applied to the same spell.

    However if you combined some att+6 body with a str+6 body and ended up with att+6 str+6, that's starting to become overpowered.

    But realistically under your system you'd see pieces of gear with something like attack+20 str+5 dex+5 crit rate+3 and a bunch of other stuff all at once, making the armor god tier because all of those stats apply to TPing.

    So it doesn't work the same because all the stats you're combining apply to one thing, unlike ele staves where even though it has 8 effects on it, only 1/8 of them are being used at once based on the spell you are casting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urat View Post
    Issue is combining items like that makes them stronger, combined ele staves or obis doesnt do much because their two effects can never be applied to the same spell.

    However if you combined some att+6 body with a str+6 body and ended up with att+6 str+6, that's starting to become overpowered.

    But realistically under your system you'd see pieces of gear with something like attack+20 str+5 dex+5 crit rate+3 and a bunch of other stuff all at once, making the armor god tier because all of those stats apply to TPing.

    So it doesn't work the same because all the stats you're combining apply to one thing, unlike ele staves where even though it has 8 effects on it, only 1/8 of them are being used at once based on the spell you are casting.
    But at the same time, aren't we already at the point in the game when we should have "god tier" if you will pieces of armor. Cap can't go higher, doubt we'll see anymore retail or download expansions, no more large updates, just small updates, etc. Also it wouldn't be like they would be the easiest to get. Have to still obtain all the pieces separately and then SE can still add a quest to combine them. Not too hard but worth it. Something to shoot for.
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    Player Urat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    But at the same time, aren't we already at the point in the game when we should have "god tier" if you will pieces of armor. Cap can't go higher, doubt we'll see anymore retail or download expansions, no more large updates, just small updates, etc. Also it wouldn't be like they would be the easiest to get. Have to still obtain all the pieces separately and then SE can still add a quest to combine them. Not too hard but worth it. Something to shoot for.
    If you can get a "god tier" piece of gear simply from af+1 + relic+2 + empy+2 combined, that's pretty easy. It sounds like a lot of work but if you consider the fact most people are already 5/5 af3+2, you can essentially buy your full set of relic+2, that really leaves af+1s as the only real "work"

    So basically that'd mean you're af+1s are now god tier pieces of gear for a bit of extra work and some gil. Yeah... no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urat View Post
    If you can get a "god tier" piece of gear simply from af+1 + relic+2 + empy+2 combined, that's pretty easy. It sounds like a lot of work but if you consider the fact most people are already 5/5 af3+2, you can essentially buy your full set of relic+2, that really leaves af+1s as the only real "work"

    So basically that'd mean you're af+1s are now god tier pieces of gear for a bit of extra work and some gil. Yeah... no.
    Well it's just an idea. Some people like it, others don't. /shrug. And depending on what the trials are, they could be decent to hard to get. Regardless, combining some peoples would save a hell of a lot of inv space for those items that are just used to macro in and out for certain JA's by combining them with other pieces that are actually used.
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