IDEA: Relief to Inventory Issues

[Hawk]

While I completely agree with the elemental item idea, I'm not sure if the same would work for AF pieces, since they aren't used for the same situations it would be a lot harder to combine them (just adding up all stats wouldn't work) and have some exclusive effects to them. The other mentioned items (everything elemental) at least all follows the same pattern, so it would be easy to design and add the new item.

Yes but it would be a way to conserve inv space and macros. In addition would bring new found attention to older content. I doubt it would happen but it would truly be amazing to not have to carry around pieces just to macro in for a ja and instead have a piece that's useful for most situations.

[Ihnako]

Yor AF's are usefull 24/7. But you don't ask for usefullness.
And again. The OP is asking for more storage/inventory space since it's just another word for the same, just different ways to access.

Creating stuff out of other stuff just to free up storage space while containing or even upgrading it's usefullness is out of question. You can't fly a VFX-1 without considering that it's a lady who can drink more than you can supply.

Again: To free up storage space through introducing new items - OK but not those 24/7's - This is a game and storage is a part balance.

[Hawk]

Yor AF's are usefull 24/7. But you don't ask for usefullness.
And again. The OP is asking for more storage/inventory space since it's just another word for the same, just different ways to access.

Creating stuff out of other stuff just to free up storage space while containing or even upgrading it's usefullness is out of question. You can't fly a VFX-1 without considering that it's a lady who can drink more than you can supply.

Again: To free up storage space through introducing new items - OK but not those 24/7's - This is a game and storage is a part balance.

First off, not ALL AF is useful 24/7. Let's just take for example COR AF legs. DEF:11 HP+10 DEX+2 MND+2 Parrying +5. I haven't really seen a lvl 54 COR choose to use these let alone a 99. But what if you +1 them you may say? Def:12 HP+15 DEX+5 MND+5 Eva+3 Parrying +5. Yeah, not really much better. Far better pieces in that leg slot. But if you took those +1 stats, and put them onto the emp+2 (taking the highest base def of the two pieces), you'd have DEF:47 DEX+13 AGI+8 MND_5 Store TP+8 Eva+3 Parrying +5 Snapshot Caster Roll and the set Quick Draw Bonus. Now that's a useful piece. IF you were to pop on the relic+2's stats as well, most cor's would probably use these and go out of their way to get the +! legs for the bonus stats (at least those that are hardcore as some like to say). This now generates more of an interest into doing Limbus again and more interest in playing the game.

This game has plenty of different examples of upgrading, so why not take it a step further. While you say that storage is part of balance, that could be so if the game wasn't built upon macros and gear swaps. They did it to themselves, not the player-base. It's hard to cram 92 pieces of gear for a job in 80 spots (and if you can do it WITHOUT removing a single piece from the 92, then you are truly amazing). Having to pick and chose which pieces we decide to use for that particular day takes away from the enjoyment for many people. Maybe you get off on it and love it. But you know what, if you didn't have to worry about it and there was enough room, I'm sure you could still gimp yourself by leaving stuff in safe on purpose so you could continue your little game. I won't tell.

Shrinking 24 items (staff/obi/grip) just for example into 3 would ease many players pain. After all, this is a GAME and meant to be played for ENJOYMENT and FUN. Some people find that not being able to use all their gear is the opposite. Stressful and frustrating. So if SE can do something that is VERY simple to alleviate this problem, it would be in their best interest. And you know what, you wouldn't have to use it. You could be a rebel and have 8 inv spaces clogged with obi's and shout in port Jeuno how you're different. But must you truly piss on other people's enjoyment? Maybe that's how you have fun, but truly, I can't see why you're so against helping so many people.

Hell on this very forum, there isn't just 1 http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...19120-MOGVAULT but 2 http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...-one-will-like threads talking about inventory issues. If this was such a small problem, this wouldn't be the case. But clearly you're one of the lucky ones that it doesn't effect, and congrats on that. But why go against something to help so many others?

P.S. You really should check your spelling. Especially on a site that gives you a spell checker. Makes you come across and young and unprofessional.

[Ihnako]

#1 Parrying +5 is helpfull but you'r greedy.
#2 In every storagethread the same question is asked over and over again with one absurd resolution and the same absurd background.

Backgrond: Having multible jobs good geared.
Solution: New uber items to freeup space or add new ways to access space for macros.

A real solution: Play one (or a few) jobs with good equipment and you doesn't have storage issues. Cause you have 80 inventory / 80 stachel / 80 sack / 80 safe /60 locker /80 storage - that's 460 storage spaces + ~250 spaces you get from the delivery box

#3 Deal with people who don't share you opinion. If you can't forums are the worst place to get started.

[Arcon]

#1 Parrying +5 is helpfull

No.

A real solution: Play one (or a few) jobs with good equipment and you doesn't have storage issues.

So your "real solution" is to just not play certain parts of the game? What part about this is real? What part about this is even a solution? Because that's the entire problem, not the solution. Here's what just happened:

Guy: "I want to play another job, but my inventory doesn't allow it."
Ihnako: "Just don't play it. Problem solved."

Cause you have 80 inventory / 80 stachel / 80 sack / 80 safe /60 locker /80 storage - that's 460 storage spaces + ~250 spaces you get from the delivery box

It's 80 from locker. As I said before, Storage isn't always accessible, and over 100 of those spaces are for items unrelated to jobs/gear. And 250 from delivery box? Good to know you aren't being serious. Earlier I said even using Porter Moogles will take you ages to gear your jobs, muling is even worse, and getting more than 8 items out of your delivery box (and sending them again), among other items you're being sent is just full on stupid.

[Hawk]

Wow, just wow. I have no problem dealing with others having a different opinion Inhako, but why be so negative against the masses when clearly the masses have inventory issues and very few (such as yourself apparently) don't.

Instead of posting your own real solution to the problem, your suggested solution is just don't play those jobs (or gimp the jobs you play). I'm sure the dev's who spent years on the jobs would love to see you telling people to not play their aspect of the game due to inventory space. At least bring something useful to the conversation if you're going to speak at all, not ridiculous things such as parrying+5 on cor being useful. It isn't useful in 99.9% of the situations (I'm sure there might be one chance it could play a part in one swing from the enemy) but it's usefulness is much greater when combined with relic and emp.

And you still never solved my problem. Fit 92 items in your 80 gobbiebag WITHOUT removing a single item. IF you can do that, I will consider all that you say as valid. If not, post a solution that does NOT involve removing gear or gimping yourself. I am proposing one. Now it's your turn.

[Ihnako]

@Arcon:
You want to play a different job but you don't have enough storage?
Mule! You can't - quit the game or stop QQing and begin to decide what you really want to do.

@Hawk
The masses doesn't have storage issues. It's just a handfull of people who can't accept that life isn't a pony farm.

No job needs 92 items to be good. With 50-60 your bad ass allready. So at least 20 spaces are left.

PS: Parry +5 is helpfull as it negates 100% of the incomming physical damage in case you parry and parry+5 increases the chance. And that's a fact! (Even there are items that are more practcal. But that wasn't part of the origin question.)

PPS: My solution is a solid solution. Your solution is the allmighty uber pony. So who's not able to deal with reality?

[Arcon]

@Arcon:
You want to play a different job but you don't have enough storage?
Mule! You can't - quit the game or stop QQing and begin to decide what you really want to do.

That's what everyone is doing already. Your "solution" is nothing new. People have thought of that for years. That doesn't change the fact that it's utterly retarded. This forum is, as I've told you in several other threads you were eager to shoot down for no reason, for feedback. We're giving feedback. You're being a dickhead. Everything you said can be summed up by "I don't want change, and if you want it, you're QQing and something something pony!", which I'm sure you believe makes some kind of sense. It doesn't.

@Hawk
The masses doesn't have storage issues. It's just a handfull of people who can't accept that life isn't a pony farm.

Everyone has storage issues, and you just admitted it. You said to use mules and Porter Moogles and even the fucking delivery box. If you use any of those you have storage issues, because those are ways to deal with it and you wouldn't be using any of them if you had enough storage. You're just confusing our attempt to make a different inventory saving suggestion with random bitching about how life is unfair. Both Hawk and I have been playing for years, and we've managed so far. What makes you think that suddenly we can't deal with it and are crying about it? It's a simple suggestion. It's a good suggestion. Objectively good, because it's easy to implement, would encourage people to play more and do more varied content and it would help absolutely everyone without making the game any easier. So what exactly is your problem with it?

No job needs 92 items to be good. With 50-60 your bad ass allready. So at least 20 spaces are left.

No, with 50-60 you're about average.

PS: Parry +5 is helpfull as it negates 100% of the incomming physical damage in case you parry and parry+5 increases the chance. And that's a fact! (Even there are items that are more practcal. But that wasn't part of the origin question.)

No it's not helpful. Never. In 0% of the cases.

PPS: My solution is a solid solution. Your solution is the allmighty uber pony. So who's not able to deal with reality?

Reality is everyone hates you, for good reason. Because you're an idiot who keeps insisting they're right, which makes you either a (bad) troll or an ignorant idiot, both of which are counterproductive. Your solution is no solution at all. All you said was "we shouldn't have this because of ponies". Stop pretending you're smart. Denying someone access to content is not, never, ever a solution. All you're doing (and not just in this thread, but every single thread I've seen you post in so far) is spout some garbage, then not being able to defend it but still insisting on it like a stubborn child and after a while you start making up shit to "back up" your arguments and that goes on until a mod comes in and deletes all your posts. Also, you have a disturbing pony obsession. Get help.

[Ihnako]

Since Arcon is about to start another flame I'll enlight him.
We make it easy so even a birdbrain could chew the information.

a) Life isn't a pony farm - Maybe in your country it's not a popular saying but so sum it up "Life isn't what you wish it to be. You have to deal with it and make the best out of it."

b) I don't need a change in the way you and the 3 other posters including the OP is asking for. You allready have enough storage.

c) If you nee more than 50-60 pieces for a job to be bad ass, you'r just a bad player with no common sense about where the overkill starts.

d) Sure Parry helps. And as I said it negates 100% of the incomming physical damage. So to make it easy a potential hit of 100,000 points of damage could be negated by parrying. PDT gear could reduce it but you'll die. You could evade it also but parry is applied after you failed to evade. So parry increases your chance to negate damage.
And to come back to the origin question - there was the statement that the AF1 isn't helpfull at all. And that's simply wrong. Every stat on your AF1 has a justification to be there. You don't want to use it, I sure can understand cause there are items in the game that are better but that wasn't the origin question.

e) The mod deleted only a few posts cause I got carried away.

f) You'r a hundred years to early to lecture me. Cause I know what I do and why I do it. I know how to do it right, and what it takes to "overkill" it. And storage isn't an issue for me cause I know where I have to put my priority.

[Arcon]

b) I don't need a change in the way you and the 3 other posters including the OP is asking for. You allready have enough storage.

How do you know that we have enough? If you don't need the change, that's perfectly fine. But coming in here and saying that we don't need the change is retarded. All you're doing is saying that our playstyle is stupid, because the inventory issues are a part of the game's natural balancing (when even SE said it was just a hardware limitation) and we should adapt to it. And disregarding the fact that we are adapting to it (otherwise, how would we be playing?), our suggestion is to introduce a means to ease that. SE wants us to have a higher inventory, hell, that's why they increased it ten times so far and keep adding new means of storing items. And we're helping them by suggestion a new move, something that would be productive in several ways. Yet you come in here with your high opinion that needing more storage is stupid. Thanks for sharing.

c) If you nee more than 50-60 pieces for a job to be bad ass, you'r just a bad player with no common sense about where the overkill starts.

So you're a bad player if you have a TP set, a WS set, a MDT and PDT set? Or a Refresh/MP set, nuking sets, enfeebling sets and curing sets? God forbid having different WS sets for different WS, because trying to maximize your efficiency apparently means you have no common sense?

Let's see what we have just for mages: Eight elemental staves, eight elemental belts. 16 staves if you have one for damage and one for accuracy for each element. That's 24 items alone, on just two slots (weapon and belt). Meaning for the other 14 slots you can only afford two pieces each, or you're overkilling? Oh, I forgot, your solution was to just pick two elements, because if you gear for more it means you want a pony.

d) Sure Parry helps. And as I said it negates 100% of the incomming physical damage. So to make it easy a potential hit of 100,000 points of damage could be negated by parrying. PDT gear could reduce it but you'll die. You could evade it also but parry is applied after you failed to evade. So parry increases your chance to negate damage.
And to come back to the origin question - there was the statement that the AF1 isn't helpfull at all. And that's simply wrong. Every stat on your AF1 has a justification to be there. You don't want to use it, I sure can understand cause there are items in the game that are better but that wasn't the origin question.

No, many stats on many AF pieces have no justification at all to be there. You're trying to argue semantics. What you're trying to argue is that a Leather Belt is useful at 99, because it adds 1 Defense point. "Sure, there's better, that doesn't make this useless!" Yeah, great logic. If we go by that, absolutely everything has a justification to be on anything, which makes the word "justification" completely lose its meaning.

And the parrying doesn't help. At all.

f) You'r a hundred years to early to lecture me. Cause I know what I do and why I do it. I know how to do it right, and what it takes to "overkill" it. And storage isn't an issue for me cause I know where I have to put my priority.

I'm sure you believe that. You're very convinced of yourself. Idiots usually are. It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect. Apparently you don't know about "counting", though, which does, in fact, make me more than qualified to lecture you. You call it "priority" but it's just a rationalization for why you're willingly and knowingly gimping yourself. Consider yourself lectured.