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  1. #61
    Player Apelila's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Giving your account name might unlock potential for that, but not character. There's no way to know the POL ID of someone from their character name, since its a random set of letters and numbers and not named by the player, nor is it displayed to anyone on the forums. You are not at any risk of hacking by using your main character versus a mule, and even if you were, how would using a mule character help? it's obvious any level 1 is a mule and probably not a main character- they'd just hack you anyway and get both if they're on the same account or get whatever you're keeping on your mule that's worth anything.
    Stopped reading the thread here just to point something out - if a person was silly enough to make their SquareEnix ID the same as their character name it could potentially be a security risk. You can get the POL information out of the SE character management system, so if someone made their SE ID the same as their character name it -might- make them a target.

    That's going full conspiracy theory though, like hacks targeting specific players and stuff. Because you still have to get the password for said SE account, and the account has to not have a security token.
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  2. #62
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Stopped reading the thread here just to point something out - if a person was silly enough to make their SquareEnix ID the same as their character name it could potentially be a security risk.
    It's not a security risk because it does not tell you what the PlayOnline ID or its password is. Without the security token, you need (or need to be able to crack) four pieces of information:
    POL ID
    POL password
    SE Account name
    SE Account password

    If you have a security token, they need to circumvent that too.

    It doesn't matter if they can deduce your account name. They still need your POL ID and both passwords. Just by the pure chance that SE's system ended up being so convulted, it's actually more secure than the average game with just a single logon and password (unless you conciously make it less secure by revealing all of your account details to someone, or if you do something stupid like make your account name and password the same as your POL ID and password- and I wonder if the system even allows that?).
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 01-09-2012 at 05:50 PM.

  3. #63
    Player Apelila's Avatar
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    If you log in through the SE account system you can find the POL ID and you can reset the POL password without any additional verification. So w/o a security token, all you need is the SE ID and it's password to take control of an account (Assuming the person has migrated from POL to the SE account system).

    There is a somewhat valid concern someone might have if they where indeed pantsonheadstupid enough to use their character name as the SE ID while not having a security token linked. And yes, the POL ID password can be the same as the SE ID password, I tried it last time I reset the PW on my alt. (Then I changed it shaking my head at the sillyness)
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    Clearly the answer is MOAR PASSWORDS! It's not enough that I keep track of my POL password, SE password, security token, and CnB/Paypal passwords. Those things are all keeping me safe.
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    I think the account linking was originally done to give the message that action can be taken on your game account due to being properly linked to your posting account, they didn't really care which char you used.

    I can't realy see them changing this to add a feature that no other forum has (at least not to the level that some here want it). I quite like talking about this topic but the reality is they aren't going to add it.
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    It doesn't matter how different all of your passwords and login names are if someone places a keylogger on your computer. That's how the RMT stole all of those accounts years ago.

    Otherwise, like Alhanelem said, there are plenty of combinations a person would have to figure out in order to crack into a person's account. Security token being one of the more difficult ones.
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    Hey guise, why are you all so caught up in this issue? I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Hey guise, why are you all so caught up in this issue? I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
    Lolz, theyre worried about your integrity!
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    Player Eric's Avatar
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    Nobody's worried about anything. While I couldn't care less about half of you people hiding behind level 1 characters, I think this thread succeeded in one thing: calling all of you people out for being cowards.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Hey guise, why are you all so caught up in this issue? I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
    You are a lv.1 poster, you have no credibility
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