Posters on "JOB lv. 1" characters trolling

[Zaknafein]

More like posting with honesty coward.

The content of my posts don't meet your criteria? I must have failed to absorb the Runespider's guide to intelligent posts. Post a zillion whining negative threads interspersed with Amagad Tanaka you make me so Emo. Hold on brb cutting myself. Hai Gaiz check out my super Dee duper Meme's! You don't know who I am though tee hee hee....

[Runespider]

More like posting with honesty coward.

What have you posted that's so honest? What makes you such an honest and true poster? Just curious how you think this is an argument at all. So you class people that post on anon forums like Alla and BG dishonest people? o.O

The content of my posts don't meet your criteria? I must have failed to absorb the Runespider's guide to intelligent posts. Post a zillion whining negative threads interspersed with Amagad Tanaka you make me so Emo. Hold on brb cutting myself. Hai Gaiz check out my super Dee duper Meme's! You don't know who I am though tee hee hee....

Just that you post drivel most of the time, which is fine of course (so do I!)! but when you try to set yourself up as something good, pitchfork inhand complaining about the trolls and cowardly anon posters and then post just as much garbage yourself, then it comes off kinda silly.

Anyway fear not, I'm sure nobody doubts that you are truely a brave hero. Quite possibly the bravest hero the FFXI official forums have to offer and of that I'm sure you are very proud.

[Alhanelem]

I offer you the challenge to waste countless hours of your life finding out who I am, knock yourself out.

Nobody really wants to do that (except possibly the person you were responding to?)- but they also shouldn't have to. It's the simple fact that not using your real character tells people you have something to hide, or that "Hey, I get to be an ass on these forums because no one will ever find out who I am!" Basically, there's only one reason not to select your main character, and that's to send the message that you're here just to be a jerk and get away with it.

And that internet meme image you posted kind of proves that.

Maybe relying on your ingame name is a crutch for you that many others don't need?

No one said it guarantees post quality, though odds are higher you'll see decent posts from people who use their character name (Now come on, it's not like we're asking for your real, actual life name) over those who don't.

Personally, I'm willing to accept the consequences of my actions if someone hates me enough after reading one of my posts that they want to go find me on the server and train NMs to my EXP party or something. It would suck, but at least I maintain my integrity and show I'm better than faceless internet trolls. The fact is, using mules as your main character is essentially a free license to troll- After all, since no one knows who you are, you can get away with it 100%, right?

[Anewie]

If you feel someone is trolling, u blist them. I cant stand people who are determined to have a problem. I myself, blist every last person i think is a complete moron and is jiust trying to get a rise out of me. Why on earth would you want to see a troll comment? Why on earth do you care what a troll says? If your argument is, someone should own up to their views and show themselves, the question i have for you is, how does that benefit you exactly? you already stated you wouldn't harrase them or bother them in game, so why do you need to know who a troll is?

So you can avoid them in game? If someone is a true troll, they will act so in game, in which you would blist them there as well. If theyre only trolling on the board, then in game it doesn't benefit you to know who they are. Because in xi, they are not trolling. So im just not sure how knowing or not knowing who someone is on a board benefits a person.

Integrity of poster? Again, if you're someone who cares what other people think of your opinion, sure. But 90% of us don't care that much. This is a discussion board for a video game, it isn't that deep.If you don't like my opinion, or even respect it, I couldn't care less. Im still going to express it and if you're gonna troll me as a response, ill just blist and go on my merry way.

I suggest everyone does the same. Cause it's really not that big a deal.

[Nynja]

Yes we know you blist everyone...you blist everyone who has an opinion differing from yours. Must be a sad lonely world you live in.

[Nynja]

I guess since I can, I'll use you as proof of why people shouldnt be allowed to post on lv1 accounts,or atleast have a 5 post limit up untill a certain level...which makes sense considering SE allready has level restrictions in game on certain things (fishing for one):

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/me...16309-Benihana
Joined 04-18-2011
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/members/4201-Anewie
Joined 03-08-2011

I'm not exactly sure when SE forced character linking...but look at these post tenures:
Apr 11: both post
May 11: Anewie, no Benihana
Up untill mid june: Anewie only
Mid june till aug: Anewie disappears
Benihana has a couple posts in september, disappears for 2 months and resurfaces around christmas for a week. Disappears again only for Anewie to appear.
You probably have more troll accounts that no ones noticed.

Both share similar signatures: ridiculously stupid gif, and attacking greatguardian.

[SNK]

I totally concur that people need to grow a pair and post under their real characters instead of thier mules.

[Aeonk]

Not like your "forum rep" matters anyway. I'd guess that less than half the playerbase posts on any of the active forums, so even if you're labeled a troll or bad player, it's more than likely not going to come back to haunt you. You may occasionally get the one or 2 players who frequent forums and know who you are, but for the most part you are still anonymous.

So yea, hiding behind a lvl 1 mule account is kind of a moot point.

[Yinnyth]

LOL people are gonna hack my account if they know my name....

Seriously just be real about it. You either post from a mule account because you want to start shit without anyone being able to trace it back to you. Or the game you talk of here on the forum doesn't match up to your ingame gear/progression. Very simple.

LOL trolling is gonna stop if people know the real character name...

Seriously just be real about it. You either want to know their real char names to torment their character ingame or because you just want to reinforce your false belief of superiority. Very simple.

You've heard it here first folks. I'm going to spend 25$ to worldshift my character to troll someone because I now know whos responsible for the dumbshit comments they're making.

So, Nynja, are you defending his post that there are only 2 reasons people would hide behind a mule account on the forums, or are you just shooting down my post that there are only 2 reasons people would demand to know the real identity of a poster? Because I'll be the first to admit I wasn't serious about that post. It was a duplication of his post only I substituted his closed-minded opinions with closed-minded opinions on the other side of the spectrum to create contrast and hopefully help other people to realize he is vastly oversimplifying the issue. Now if you agree with him that those are the only 2 possibilities, well, there is no way for a closed mind to be forcibly opened, so I'd be wasting my time here.

Then why require account linking? for lulz?

Beats me, I'm not them. How about you ask them? I always assumed it was to create a little more diversity in avatars so it would be slightly easier to tell posters apart from one another at a glance, but who am I to say? And for that matter, who are you to say? You're not them, so you're not qualified to state what their intentions are unless they themselves have already made it clear. It certainly wouldn't be the first time they did something annoying for their players for seemingly no reason (Hi, ClickAn- oh right, that was for our "own safety" or some BS they fed us about that)

Now if it IS INDEED WHAT THEY INTEND, then they have every right to re-write the ToS, implement your suggested changes, and flip me the bird. But there are currently no rules against it, so unless SE says or does something about it, anyone who says "but they're circumventing the system SE put into place to avoid this" is merely speculating, and my speculation is worth just as much as anyone else's. And my speculation is that we're giving away enough of our identity already, and that if your changes were implemented, trolling on internet forums would not see much of a decrease.

[Nynja]

Beats me, I'm not them. How about you ask them?

I'm trying...