Posters on "JOB lv. 1" characters trolling

[Nynja]

Back in the day Gilgamesh had its share of trolls, Blynk + co. After 5 years of blatantly stealing peoples shit, there were STILL morons who'd respond to his BCNM shouts and STILL shout an hour later how "this prick jacked my drops it was supposed to be your orb your drop".

[Alhanelem]

Oh yes the sorry old "you have nothing to fear unless you have something to hide" argument. This has always been a discredited argument. It is legitimate to want privacy for it's own sake.

No, it was never a discredited argument. You can't have your cake and eat it too, either. If you want privacy, don't post on a forum. There's a reason there's no private message feature. Everything is kept out in the open, and you shouldn't be saying anything you're not willing to own up to even if you're on a lv1 mule. The only reason to want privacy on this forum is because you've done something bad you don't want people to find out about / you want to talk about it without people knowing who did it.

Nobody is going to come after you in game because you posted something on this forum. There is nothing to fear unless you have something bad to hide, it's a plain, simple fact. Again, your character and main job level are not like your name address and phone number (which are a violation of the forum rules to discuss). No actual harm can come to you by revealing it.

<<<<< That's the real deal right there. My main is Tahngarthor, I'm a level 99 PUP and I'm on Shiva. COME GET ME!

[TybudX]

Nobody is going to come after you in game because you posted something on this forum.

Then what difference does it make if somebody posts their main account name? All I can see is that you are butt hurt and want to stalk people to use their gear/jobs/other experiences against them. If you were that confidant in your positions it wouldn't matter that you can or can't see somebody elses' character.

[Atomic_Skull]

Nobody is going to come after you in game because you posted something on this forum.

Really? Because this happened to me in EQ where I said something online that pissed someone off (something to the effect that I wasn't going to cowtow to someone because of what guild he was in) and he had his guild harass me for over a year and a half.

Again, your character and main job level are not like your name address and phone number (which are a violation of the forum rules to discuss). No actual harm can come to you by revealing it.

Wrong again, it can be used as a cross reference between sites when trying to track someone down. If you want to be a naive fool be my guest but don't try to force it on other people.

comparing ffxi forums to /b/...fkn lol

If you are a /b/tard (personally I stick to /v/ and /tg/) then you are well aware that information can be cross referenced across forums to track down IRL info on people. You should know that staying Anonymous as much as possible on the internet is a good idea.

[Nynja]

If you are a /b/tard (personally I stick to /v/ and /tg/) then you are well aware that information can be cross referenced across forums to track down IRL info on people. You should know that staying Anonymous as much as possible on the internet is a good idea.

What sounds easier to you:
A-Figuring out who your main char is despite your "best efforts" to hide it.
B-Finding your real name, location, city, girlfriend, virginity, job based on your FFXI name.


And, i'd like to point out why the whole "just blist the mule accounts" wont work:
Hordecore's threads still exist...but a board admin was clearly around here cleaning posts up (my mockery [to the devs] was removed from my thread title), on top of the fact that hordecore routinely bumps his pointless threads. blisting doesnt make them disappear...

[Runespider]

Sharing information is down to the person themselves to decide (especially when it serves no purpose other than the curiosity of your fellow posters), sorry but you don't get to decide where everyone else draws the line mr Alha. Anyway that whole argument is beside the point, the real argument was that it would stop trolling and that's nonsense, trolls thrive off the notoriety of it, they want you to know who they are.

The front page and past history of trolling here debunks the entire "anon = troll" argument. Account linking was added to make people know that their actions here were linked to their accounts (not a specific char) and not to out people. You people just have to accept you ain't going to have your way so if it means so much to you either find a forum that has this (none exist) or learn to live with it.

[Greatguardian]

Sharing information is down to the person themselves to decide (especially when it serves no purpose other than the curiosity of your fellow posters), sorry but you don't get to decide where everyone else draws the line mr Alha. Anyway that whole argument is beside the point, the real argument was that it would stop trolling and that's nonsense, trolls thrive off the notoriety of it, they want you to know who they are.

The front page and past history of trolling here debunks the entire "anon = troll" argument. Account linking was added to make people know that their actions here were linked to their accounts (not a specific char) and not to out people. You people just have to accept you ain't going to have your way so if it means so much to you either find a forum that has this (none exist) or learn to live with it.

Your reasoning is faulty. We've been required to log in to the forums with our Square Enix Accounts from the get-go, and were told on Day 1 of the forum release that any actions taken on the forums could also result in disciplinary consequences for our game accounts.

GMs do not need account linking to see our SE account or our character data. In fact, I must disagree with the usage of the term "Account linking" here at all. Our Square Enix accounts have always been linked to our forum data. The only change to this was making Character data public and mandatory.

As far as I'm concerned, people who want to bypass the system will always find a way to bypass the system. However, this does not change the intent of the system. It's clear that the developers wanted us to treat these forums like we would Port Jeuno shouts or Linkshell chat - where people would know our character names if we decided to make an ass of ourselves. Whether they choose to more strictly enforce this or not is up to them, though I doubt any measures they take will definitively stop people from avoiding identification if they're dead-set on doing so.

[Runespider]

We've been required to log in to the forums with our Square Enix Accounts from the get-go, and were told on Day 1 of the forum release that any actions taken on the forums could also result in disciplinary consequences for our game accounts.

Being told to follow the rules and having to take action on your forum acc to link it to something more valuable (game account) are two different things.

I didn't really consider that they would take action on your SE account because of something done on here till then at least.

[Greatguardian]

Being told to follow the rules and having to take action on your forum acc to link it to something more valuable (game account) are two different things.

I didn't really consider that they would take action on your SE account because of something done on here till then at least.

That's a matter of your perception, then. Nothing has changed on their side. They have always said that they reserve the right to penalize our game accounts if we stir up too much shit on the forums, from the very beginning. They do not use this power often, but they have once before - and did so before public characters were even made mandatory. That was an extreme case, though, and the person in question was clearly a danger to himself and others.

Our forum accounts have always been linked to our game accounts. Period. From day 1. The only thing that changed was the fact that other posters can now see some of that information. I'm not sure how much more clear this can be made.

[Nynja]

Then why hide?