Posters on "JOB lv. 1" characters trolling

[Eric]

Whatever. I don't need to know your forum account to notice a terrible player. Neither do other people. Hiding behind a mule on a forum won't change that.

[TybudX]

That's the point. You can't see someone's gear unless you cross reference them on a third party site, which isn't even mandatory. You can't tell anything about their playing by that gear either way (hello #1 ranked player in the game). Your next logical step is to have somebody stalk them in game to post their gear, and I'm pretty sure a lot of the people crying foul to people not using their in game names are the same type of people who get all butt hurt that BG has a gimp/confused/wtf player thread. So what do you gain by knowing an in game name? Nothing? Good. Base your opinions on somebody's actions. The only possible reason you could have to want to know their in game avatar is to attack them. I haven't seen one person here post a reason that didn't purvey that sentiment at heart.

Here's something else to think about. Do you guys think somebody like GG or Neisan go around spouting textbooks of speech to players in game? Not likely. Chances are they are just like the rest of us. They probably talk to their LS mates, joke around, and fill their time playing with lighthearted conversation. There's a good chance that how somebody acts on a forum is different than how they act in a game. I know I've talked down on certain jobs and styles of play, but on a conceptual level. That doesn't mean I'm going to refuse to play with the guy in my LS who likes to whip out his sword on RDM every chance he gets. I'm also not going to refuse to do an event just because we don't have the accepted job spread to win. I play the game to have fun. I come to forums to get the most unbiased information I can to help improve my self and the people I play with.

You know what else? I know people who (stupidly) used their real names as their characters. After this many years they shouldn't be forced to change their names just to protect themselves on an online forum. That right there is enough reason to allow mules and separate accounts.

[Ravenmore]

Again this forum linking was a sad failed attempt by SE to make us play nice. The best fights on here have been between people with thier mains listed.

[Alhanelem]

Again this fotum linking was a sad failed attempt by SE to make us play nice. The best fights on here have been between people with thier mains listed.

No, usually it's a fight between someone with a listed main and someone who has not listed a real main.

There's a good chance that how somebody acts on a forum is different than how they act in a game.

Actually I'm quite certain that they do provide technical information in-game like they do on the forums- just only when somebody asks for it. The people I do know ingame who post on this forum are not much different here than there. The chance is much higher that someone who doesn't list their main is behaving differently on the forums- usually more trollish.

I also don't know many bad apples in game who aren't also bad apples on whatever forum they happen to frequent.

Seriously. The -only- real reason to hide your main character on the forums is so you can troll with no repercussions, or because you screwed somebody in-game and you don't want them to know who you are here so you don't get called out for it. There is pretty much no way to deny this. Hacking fears is a B.S. excuse because it's not true.

[Greatguardian]

No, usually it's a fight between someone with a listed main and someone who has not listed a real main.

Actually I'm quite certain that they do provide technical information in-game like they do on the forums- just only when somebody asks for it. The people I do know ingame who post on this forum are not much different here than there. The chance is much higher that someone who doesn't list their main is behaving differently on the forums- usually more trollish.

I also don't know many bad apples in game who aren't also bad apples on whatever forum they happen to frequent.

Seriously. The -only- real reason to hide your main character on the forums is so you can troll with no repercussions, or because you screwed somebody in-game and you don't want them to know who you are here so you don't get called out for it. There is pretty much no way to deny this. Hacking fears is a B.S. excuse because it's not true.

A couple friends have taken to calling me a walking ffxi encyclopedia, but it's more that I've become a mighty LMGTFY master. The difference between my forum posting and my attitude in-game are night and day, though it's rare that people I know in-game post on the forums in the first place so it doesn't come up often.

What, do people really think I'd be a successful leader of both social and endgame linkshells for over 7 years now if I was a ginormous douchebag to anyone and everyone?

Anecdotal evidence is best evidence.

[Alhanelem]

What, do people really think I'd be a successful leader of both social and endgame linkshells for over 7 years now if I was a ginormous douchebag to anyone and everyone?

Well, are you saying you consider yourself to be a ginormous douchebag on the forums? That's not really what I see, at least not most of the time.

[Greatguardian]

Well, are you saying you consider yourself to be a ginormous douchebag on the forums? That's not really what I see, at least not most of the time.

Ha. I think that comes down to perspective.

[TybudX]

The -only- real reason to hide your main character on the forums is so you can troll with no repercussions

You keep bringing this up, and people keep correcting you: not agreeing with you =/= trolling. Take Dallas for example. He posts from a mule account and is at disagreement with pretty much everybody on these forums. Does that make him a troll? No, it makes him a laughing stock, and pretty much wrong about everything in life, but he's not a troll.

And when has somebody using their in game name stopped them from actually trolling you? It's so easy to do; you almost do it to yourself most times.

[Nynja]

You keep bringing this up, and people keep correcting you: not agreeing with you =/= trolling. Take Dallas for example. He posts from a mule account and is at disagreement with pretty much everybody on these forums. Does that make him a troll? No, it makes him a laughing stock, and pretty much wrong about everything in life, but he's not a troll.

And when has somebody using their in game name stopped them from actually trolling you? It's so easy to do; you almost do it to yourself most times.

If you were posting with your main character revealed, someone on Fenrir might look at your posts and go "this guys a fn retard, holy shit im never doing anything with this moron"...instead they just disregard it.

[Meyi]

If you were posting with your main character revealed, someone on Fenrir might look at your posts and go "this guys a fn retard, holy shit im never doing anything with this moron"...instead they just disregard it.

It's usually the other way around. I often times read something really stupid, look over at the user name, look down at the server and character name, and nod my head in shame. Most server idiots are well known without the help of forums.

But I agree. Why hide information? If none of us are important, then why act as if your information is so important that you feel the need to hide it from everyone? Very few people on this forum have a notorious enough reputation to even be remembered. If someone fears becoming one of these people, then just avoid being a jackass and everything should be fine.