Blu Tp Set and WS set Suggestions for upgrade :D

[VZX]

What? If anything VW is one of the most practical applications of a PDT set. You won't always have Fanatics/Fools 24/7.

Yes, like 10 secs in between where it's not guaranteed you will get attention being smacked by physical damage. Stay out of range for 10 secs if it's AoE physical damage? What's wrong with that.

[Prothscar]

And if you are getting smacked with physical damage, you would be prepared with a PDT set. Seriously, there is no situation where you should not have an optimal PDT set available. Ever. On any job.

[saevel]

Yes, like 10 secs in between where it's not guaranteed you will get attention being smacked by physical damage. Stay out of range for 10 secs if it's AoE physical damage? What's wrong with that.

It's useful for when you need to hit a proc and fanatics isn't available, or for when you got proc screwed. It sucks when both of your HV procs are something stupid like "PUP Robot WS", a BST pet move, or some spell / effect that the NM is immune to. That happens more then people would like to admit and it's handy to be able to survive and hit V procs and hope to get a fanatics.

[VZX]

It took me thinking quite a while...
Considering how likely your situation happens and qualitatively bad the situation would become if you don't have PDT gear. I still come to the conclusion it's not more important than dealing a couple extra damage on your WS.
If you want to believe a perfected gear on specific situation and certain skill required to execute a task coming from an individual on a 18-man battle with huge noise and randomness is that big, then be my guest. But in reality, it requires that the other 17 people to be insanely dumb or the randomizer need to be extremely lucky to bring the odds where everyone's best bet is certain someone's pdt set (the not dedicated tank).

[Neisan_Quetz]

If you've found 17 other people you can trust, cool. I haven't, and until I do, will be keeping my DT sets.

[saevel]

It took me thinking quite a while...
Considering how likely your situation happens and qualitatively bad the situation would become if you don't have PDT gear. I still come to the conclusion it's not more important than dealing a couple extra damage on your WS.
If you want to believe a perfected gear on specific situation and certain skill required to execute a task coming from an individual on a 18-man battle with huge noise and randomness is that big, then be my guest. But in reality, it requires that the other 17 people to be insanely dumb or the randomizer need to be extremely lucky to bring the odds where everyone's best bet is certain someone's pdt set (the not dedicated tank).

Who's talking about WS <.<

A PDT set is just a modified TP set that swaps in PDT over regular melee gear. Your going to WS in a WS set in either case. Gear changes are instant, so hit WS macro then immediately hit TP macro as to animation is going off.

And nothing is more important then hitting HV procs on the dangerous ones (not the lol beetle). Having a HV Scholar Abilities and HV Sword sucks on Pil (just for example) if you don't have a fanatics. You need to survive Flank Opening so that you can cycle through the sword procs to refil temps.

And that's just an annoyingly common example.

[Tashan]

I always carry my EVA and TP set with me. Shold EVA fail I decide to either prioritise PDT or MDT based on the mob I'm fighting and switch to that.

However, I'm hoping to turn my Full Eva build (which I love) into more of a hybrid Haste build. If done so succesfully, I'll hope to reduce the amount of EVA specific gear I'm carrying and walk around with a PDT or MDT build full time.

[VZX]

Who's talking about WS <.<

A PDT set is just a modified TP set that swaps in PDT over regular melee gear. Your going to WS in a WS set in either case. Gear changes are instant, so hit WS macro then immediately hit TP macro as to animation is going off.

And nothing is more important then hitting HV procs on the dangerous ones (not the lol beetle). Having a HV Scholar Abilities and HV Sword sucks on Pil (just for example) if you don't have a fanatics. You need to survive Flank Opening so that you can cycle through the sword procs to refil temps.

And that's just an annoyingly common example.

I wasn't talking about WS. It's just a comparison of situation of "how bad it can goes".

I never had a problem getting proc on Pil or bad pickup group that have trouble proc'ing so the fight come into failure. Granted I'll never have to fight it again, but that's as far as my experience goes.

I always carry my EVA and TP set with me. Shold EVA fail I decide to either prioritise PDT or MDT based on the mob I'm fighting and switch to that.

However, I'm hoping to turn my Full Eva build (which I love) into more of a hybrid Haste build. If done so succesfully, I'll hope to reduce the amount of EVA specific gear I'm carrying and walk around with a PDT or MDT build full time.

I'm looking for Denali +5 hand, legs, and feet. They are what we can call the real eva+haste set. Without sacrificing haste, we can get even more than what we have now.

[Tashan]

Yeah that'll be awesome, especially since my playtime looks to be getting shorter than what it already is.

I'm sure getting the +5 set will be as random as VW though with the floor mechanics of Nyzul 2 ._.

[saevel]

I wasn't talking about WS. It's just a comparison of situation of "how bad it can goes".

I never had a problem getting proc on Pil or bad pickup group that have trouble proc'ing so the fight come into failure. Granted I'll never have to fight it again, but that's as far as my experience goes.


I'm looking for Denali +5 hand, legs, and feet. They are what we can call the real eva+haste set. Without sacrificing haste, we can get even more than what we have now.

Your lieing, period.

1 EV, 2 HV, 6 V procs, HV and V procs cycle after their hit.

Considering the sheer number of procs available, and the cycleing nature of them, the probability of you and any alliance your in not getting "proc screwed" on any fight ~ever~ is zero.

HV SCH Ability
HV Rabit Pet Abilities

no BST in alliance

How exactly are you going to "not have a problem hitting procs" then.

Pil is a joke until he's got his shield up and wondering around spamming aoe Flank Opening for 1.6~2.4K damage along with ~1500 point -ja's. No temps to refil MP / HP or to block his damage, meaning you gotta take it on the chin.

Please tell me how your going to hit that SCH JA that every NM is immune to, or that BST pet ability without a BST. Or heck even if you had a BST the recall timer is long and Pil is spamming high damage aoe moves. That Rabbit is going to take one to two aoe's Flanks before it dies, and then your screwed waiting on the timer to call another one.

Or how about if it's HV Dark Ninja and ends up being Kurayami on a dark immune monster, you know the ones that like to resist dispel without +m.acc.

So yes, you lieing to support your argument of never requiring a DT/PDT set. Attempting to pound your chest and say how awesome you are because apparently your magical and your very presence ensured that your alliance will never get screwed over on procs.