Blu Tp Set and WS set Suggestions for upgrade :D

[Dreamin]

Not sure about other BLU but if you're BLU'ing for VW, you're just there as proc monkey. Set 3-4 full element and wait for the call for it. Depending on the NMs, you probably need to be in the backline then in the front (nothing worst than having an HQ proc for a person and they're dead without RR).

As for Abyssea, ppl still do Abyssea as an LS event? At least with Abyssea, you can actually set all elements and still have a few slots left to use. But since most of your useful/regular spells won't be set, again you'll be just wasting ppl's MP in curing you (I'm assuming your Abyssea LS does NMs inside with more than 3 ppl). Plus, you'll just be feeding TP and if you're the main DD for any Abyssea run, then you'll need to reconsider jobs/another LS tbh. But chances are that you're only there to proc (yellow) and on the off chance that they need someone else to proc Sword/Clubs (blue or red). Remember, if you're looking to proc, you're looking for the least amount of dmg and least amount of TP feeding. Most NMs in there are too easy to kill by accident now so you actually need to gimp yourself if you are trying to proc things.

So if anything, you should be looking at WS/TP set not for VW or Abyssea (proc) but more likely where else you want to use your BLU at. But if all your BLU are for VW/Abyssea, then you'll be wasting your time tbh.

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That is horrible advice to give about VW, even if you're dragged along just for proc's a good BLU can put out impressive numbers and really contribute to damage more so than a lot of other jobs could.

BLU/war with an Almace, set triple attack, dual wield 3, a few utility spells and keep the rest free for proc's. Use good food and stalwarts and you're able to do some highly impressive attacks. I've not tried the new 99 tier mobs yet, but the old tier Pil, Kaggen, Akvan, Qilin etc my BLU could easily average 1700~ CDC's on them, even at the 95 cap. I'm not saying you'll beat the core DD jobs, but you can be so much more than just a "proc monkey". And with the arrival of the latest hint KI I can go 2-3 fights at times without hearing "HV/EV BLU!".

If you can't melee the mob? Change up your atmacites, gear for nukes, and contribute with Dark Orb and Regurg and the likes. Theres no point coming along to be a dead weight for proc's only, and you may as well play the job to the best of its ability.

I know within my LS I've slowly graduated from being shoved in the BLM party, to being accepted into the main DD parties (Cor and brd buffs! huzzah) due to how well I've been doing.

Edit - Also when it comes to Abyssea you realise that you only need 3 spells for yellow procs, the current day's element, the next days element, and the day prior's element. Theres no reason to keep all 8 spells equipped for Abyssea.

[Dreamin]

Not sure if you noticed or not, but the Op does not have an Almace (or even a fake Almace) in his list of weapons. Maybe he's working on one but until he does, he's only going to be feeding TP to the NM without doing much dmg up front at all for VW.

People are asking for advise based on what they currently have not on what's the 'best way' to go about doing things.

As for Abyssea Proc, maybe it's been too long since I last done any magic proc'ing in there but I do not believe Abyssea within the Hero zones follow the same pre-current-next day magic for magic proc. [Not a 100% really since it's literally been months since I last done anything meaningful in Abyssea].

Either way though, in any LS event, I would think there would be more than 6+ ppl, having too many ppl on NMs in Abyssea when you're trying to proc is a bad ideas because:
- you're feeding it too much TP while you wait for proc.
- you run the risk of killing it before you get your proc.

There might be maybe 2-3 NMs left that cannot be killed by 1 or 2 DDs at most now a day in Abyssea.

[Oricimaru]

Thanks for all the advice, Blu is my Main job i like to be on and yea i try to help by either throwing on my +MND/Cure Pot Set and help my pt out and the like.

I currently have a Almace (80) and im working on Skins right now. and to answer your question Dreamin, Yes my LS thinks of it this way.. Why shout for randoms and hope to god you get some people who know what they are doing ( not saying people are stupid.. just a little... Slow) and when we go for Emps or +2's we have 18 pop sets to get items from instead of 6 or 7 from a PUG. Little more efficient having all three partied rotate NM's and get a serperate KI so it moves faster.

Anouther question if you do not mind me asking >.>? Last night i got told that the Rancor Collar was bad to TP in and should only be used as a WS piece? i just wanna make sure im getting the best possible setup with what gear i have lol. I Take BLU Very seriously and would like to be one of those people can count on for advice.

Thanks
~~Oricimaru~~

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Not sure if you noticed or not, but the Op does mention in his post that he is working on Almace, and just about finished the level 80 version (EDIT - And finished th 80 while I was replying!). Which is really less than a weeks work away from the 85 version. I agree though if you don't have access to CDC, Vorpal blade won't stack up on major VW mobs.

In all abyssea zones the yellow proc's work the same way. I can totally assure you on that one. And I also agree in Abyssea you don't want too many people on it until you proc, and you don't need too many people on it anyway since most of the content is easy. But I wasnt argueing that point.

[Prothscar]

Not sure about other BLU but if you're BLU'ing for VW, you're just there as proc monkey. Set 3-4 full element and wait for the call for it. Depending on the NMs, you probably need to be in the backline then in the front (nothing worst than having an HQ proc for a person and they're dead without RR).

As for Abyssea, ppl still do Abyssea as an LS event? At least with Abyssea, you can actually set all elements and still have a few slots left to use. But since most of your useful/regular spells won't be set, again you'll be just wasting ppl's MP in curing you (I'm assuming your Abyssea LS does NMs inside with more than 3 ppl). Plus, you'll just be feeding TP and if you're the main DD for any Abyssea run, then you'll need to reconsider jobs/another LS tbh. But chances are that you're only there to proc (yellow) and on the off chance that they need someone else to proc Sword/Clubs (blue or red). Remember, if you're looking to proc, you're looking for the least amount of dmg and least amount of TP feeding. Most NMs in there are too easy to kill by accident now so you actually need to gimp yourself if you are trying to proc things.

So if anything, you should be looking at WS/TP set not for VW or Abyssea (proc) but more likely where else you want to use your BLU at. But if all your BLU are for VW/Abyssea, then you'll be wasting your time tbh.

There are NMs in Abyssea that require more than one DD?

If you're unable to DD on BLU, then I do believe that it's you that needs to reconsider your jobs/your LS. BLU is one of the top five most effective damage dealers in the game, and while it won't come close to matching a DD like MNK, SAM, or WAR, it can pull its own while providing the utilities that a BLU can provide. Suck less.


@Oricimaru: TP in Rancor Collar. Situations where you will be unable to are limited, and I suggest finding new support if you can't at all.

[Oricimaru]

Thank you everyone for your input its GREATLY appreciated. Hopefully soon i can get the Bonnet from Yannei. Thanks for all your Help.

Have Fun
Oricimaru

[Afania]

Not sure if you noticed or not, but the Op does not have an Almace (or even a fake Almace) in his list of weapons. Maybe he's working on one but until he does, he's only going to be feeding TP to the NM without doing much dmg up front at all for VW.

People are asking for advise based on what they currently have not on what's the 'best way' to go about doing things.

As for Abyssea Proc, maybe it's been too long since I last done any magic proc'ing in there but I do not believe Abyssea within the Hero zones follow the same pre-current-next day magic for magic proc. [Not a 100% really since it's literally been months since I last done anything meaningful in Abyssea].

Either way though, in any LS event, I would think there would be more than 6+ ppl, having too many ppl on NMs in Abyssea when you're trying to proc is a bad ideas because:
- you're feeding it too much TP while you wait for proc.
- you run the risk of killing it before you get your proc.

There might be maybe 2-3 NMs left that cannot be killed by 1 or 2 DDs at most now a day in Abyssea.

There are NO REASON for you to sit and do nothing since it's not always blu proc. Even without almace. Most of the VWNM die in 2 min nowadays, and if you hit white proc you cap lights instantly, and proc spells isn't always BLU. TP feed isn't really a huge deal if pt can keep getting proc and stunned it, with full time fanatic. VW is about killing as fast as possible after proc, so any additional dmg(even if it's not a lot) would just increase the efficency and get everyone more chance for the ex/rare drops. You won't die while meleeing on the NM if you know what you're doing, just have to pay attention to fanatic/fool duration.

If you have almace and want to melee the NM? Sure, but even if you don't, there are still no reason to sit back and do nothing when you can help the pt kill faster and save everyone's time. My highest Vorpal on Qilin is 1.3k on my average geared BLU(doesn't even have a dedicated WS set and 0 STR merit, pretty sure a well geared BLU can do a lot more), is it "good dmg" compare with Ukko? No, but it's better than nothing.

[Prothscar]

BLU can't DD guys, it's impossible.

[Oricimaru]

Well i just want to say Thanks for all the Advice from everyone ... BTW i hate SOBEK