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    Player Unleashhell's Avatar
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    Requiescat on PLD

    Just wanting to know some feedback from fellow PLD out there on how the new WS is working out for you. So far being 5/5 merits I'm not entirely impressed being we are level 99 and get a MND mod WS but trying to make the best out of it.

    What kind of gear setups are working best for you? I'm not finding alot of good info on this WS. I'm still tweaking my WS set a little bit.

    Currently:

    Excalibur (95)
    Twilight Helm
    Twilight Mail
    Valor Gauntlets+2
    Soil Gorget
    Atheling Mantle
    Anguinus Belt
    Avant Cuisess+1
    Hecatomb Leggings (working on changing this)
    Aqualsoul Rings
    Brutal Earring
    Suppa Earring
    Aqua Sachet
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    4.0 fTP 100% MND WSC and -20% Attack vs 4.0 fTP 30% STR and Critical%

    To be honest, I think this WS is likely weaker than Vorpal Blade across the board, which would probably explain your results.

    If you really want to mess with it, I'd probably use Grim Cuirass, Centaurus Earring, and maybe Justiciar's Torque personally.
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    I been meaning to pick up the earring just haven't gotten around to it. Grim Cuirass didnt even came across my mind actually. Something to consider. I'm trying to get Dilaram's Sollerets to replace my heca feet. The torque unfortunately PLD cant use >.<
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    D'oh! Serves me right. I should have double checked that. In general, unless you're getting minuets, you're probably going to want to roll with higher than normal Attack to try to offset the native penalty on the WS. Since it's %-based, it's really an uphill battle against cRatio, especially on content that you generally see Paladins on (stuff with high Def, etc).
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    Hmmm. Since I don't have Grim body maybe I should mess around with Ares Body since it has some more ATT on it.
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    Just a quick thrown-together check, looks like 25 att ~= 10 mnd. If you got rid of the attack penalty, the ratio is the same, so don't think you're being forced to stack attack to make up for the penalty at the expense of mnd. I doubt anything will be better than Twilight head/body for those slots.

    At lvl 99 vs lvl 101 Bukhis, I have Reqs tied with CdC. Changing the player level to 95 to simulate a higher def/level corrected mob, CdC wins handily. However even with the level penalty, Reqs should still easily outdo Vorpal.
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    What are your thoughts on:

    This:
    Aquasoul Ring
    [Finger] All Races
    DEX-3 MND+7 Enhances "Resist Virus" effect
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    Vs.

    This:
    Tjukurrpa Annulet Rare Ex
    [Finger] All Races
    MND+5 Sword skill +5 Club skill +5
    LV 94 All Jobs

    For one of the finger slots.
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    Should be near identical. Slight differences in various stats put either one of them a few points ahead of the other, essentially down in the level of 'noise'. If you're not capped on accuracy the Tjukurrpa should easily win, though, so I'd go with that.
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    Thanks for the info. Maybe tonight or tomorrow I'll see if I can get one of those and try it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    Just a quick thrown-together check, looks like 25 att ~= 10 mnd. If you got rid of the attack penalty, the ratio is the same, so don't think you're being forced to stack attack to make up for the penalty at the expense of mnd. I doubt anything will be better than Twilight head/body for those slots.

    At lvl 99 vs lvl 101 Bukhis, I have Reqs tied with CdC. Changing the player level to 95 to simulate a higher def/level corrected mob, CdC wins handily. However even with the level penalty, Reqs should still easily outdo Vorpal.
    This doesn't make sense, your previous entry's had SD > DB due to its -20% penalty even though DB could crit. Not only does CDC crit but Req has a ridiculous -20% attack penalty on it.

    Doing Dynamis and using both, I can say without any reservation that CDC > Req every time. CDC's are averaging more then twice what Req is vs DC Leach's (no acid mist on) in Dyna Tav (somewhere around 580 ~ 600 defense). Outside of the ridiculous defense of Dynamis mobs I have CDC doing 1.5~2x more then Req on Voidwatch's, even at 750~850 attack (Meat + Stalwarts on BLU/WAR with zerk up sometimes).

    Even using Dia III (when my partner is BLU/DNC so I can go RDM/DNC) to lower the mobs to /check low evasion @650 attack CDC is still crushing Req in damage. And this is on BLU / RDM who both have a ton of MND gear, hell RDM has retarded amounts of MND gear.

    4.25 fTP 60% DEX (higher dDex / acc) +15% crit @100
    vs
    5.0 fTP (looks like a 5 hit but could be a 4) 100% MND no crits -20% attack.

    If your having capping or near capping attack vs something without level correction then it's possible for Req to be better, but that's not a realistic scenario at all. PLD / BLU / RDM won't be capping attack on anything that you'd be concerned about your damage on, and once LCF of 5 or more levels sets in Req's damage goes down the toilet.

    Did you add +0.2 fTP to each hit of Req on accident?
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