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    Player Lukielucas's Avatar
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    Questions about ToS and Windower

    I know that this is a general question WHICH i would really love to get answered by the developer / producer as i think it's a fair question to ask

    Regarding Windower and how EU and NA players who could speak Japanese, why is it that if we try and do this method, that we could get suspended for such an action when all we're merely doing is tryin' to do is improve communications between players cos let face it... the auto translate can only do so much

    I personally find this quite unfair, while i know windower can be subject to abuse, have the developers ever thought of adding this option so that we actually have a way to do this without breaching the ToS.... It was something that came to me in thought....
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Huh? I'm lost.

    Windowed mode does exist in FFXI.
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    Player Lukielucas's Avatar
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    not talkin' about windowed mode... windower is a 3rd party app which people use to enable the EU / NA people to do added stuff which is against the rules but i have found that some people only do it so they can speak both english and japanese which i think it's actually fair since we're denied that option, I myself don't have the application but if it was allowed for me to do so, i would be there in a instance just so i can speak japanese to other's should i decide to do so
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukielucas View Post
    not talkin' about windowed mode... windower is a 3rd party app which people use to enable the EU / NA people to do added stuff which is against the rules but i have found that some people only do it so they can speak both english and japanese which i think it's actually fair since we're denied that option, I myself don't have the application but if it was allowed for me to do so, i would be there in a instance just so i can speak japanese to other's should i decide to do so
    I know what Windower is, what I don't see if how it can help with the language barrier. It's the equivalent of just having a browser opened with a translator...!?
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    Non-Japanese players, by default, don't have access to the IME interface that allows them to talk in all the funny squiggles we see our friends from the Far East use. In comparison, they're actually able to type English characters, e v e n i f t h e y w i n d u p w e i r d l y s p a c e d o u t. Unfortunately, a non-JP account caught using JP characters risks punishment, because it's obvious they tinkered with the client to do so.
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    with FFXI as it's the way it is, for EU and NA users they cannot input Kanji Hiragana Katakana unless they use windower which enables them to do this, but because of this, they would get suspended due to the fact that they are using a 3rd party application along with FFXI (PC User's) which is against the ToS which is why i'm stating that it's slightly unfair to EU/NA users who can speak japanese, who are resorted in many ways to use Rōmaji which i'll admit it's very rare for me to see on FFXI

    hope what i'm trying to say makes sense
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    Player Lukielucas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriha View Post
    Non-Japanese players, by default, don't have access to the IME interface that allows them to talk in all the funny squiggles we see our friends from the Far East use. In comparison, they're actually able to type English characters, e v e n i f t h e y w i n d u p w e i r d l y s p a c e d o u t. Unfortunately, a non-JP account caught using JP characters risks punishment, because it's obvious they tinkered with the client to do so.
    But we do have the option to "install" the IME interface should we want to add that feature
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukielucas View Post
    with FFXI as it's the way it is, for EU and NA users they cannot input Kanji Hiragana Katakana unless they use windower which enables them to do this, but because of this, they would get suspended due to the fact that they are using a 3rd party application along with FFXI (PC User's) which is against the ToS which is why i'm stating that it's slightly unfair to EU/NA users who can speak japanese, who are resorted in many ways to use Rōmaji which i'll admit it's very rare for me to see on FFXI

    hope what i'm trying to say makes sense
    Oh, I see. Never tried to type Japanese to be honest.
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    Doubt SE would ban for this, in fact they tolerate windower as far i know, or they would need to ban 50% of they player base. But don't ask them if is "OK" or "SAFE" as is again they ToS. Just don't push your luck with stuff that would give you "game advantage" again other player.
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    Its already been answered by a GM in a topic exactly like this one.

    I don't think they really bother anymore unless you are using some of the borderline botting aps, most of my friends tell me that GM's told them that they don't care anymore...yet to see a screenshot though >_>
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