WHM/RDM

[saevel]

Popping Light Arts and using Sublimation as neccisary is arguably easier then prepping for Convert and keeping up Refresh. Managing Stratagems isn't any harder then managing a Haste cycle and is about twenty billion times more fun, at least for the Stratagems that White Mage has available - absolute worst case you could just sit on them and only use Celerity for Raise III and if you are really advanced, a Penury for the occasional Cure V or Curaga spell.

I think he's referring to the smart use of Strategems. Now that WHM's can do Boost-STR and DEX, /SCH pretty much wins vs anything else. Half MP cost on Curaga IV / V is golden, or a super fast cast on Raise (if the damn idiot DD didn't have RR item). Or super fast cast on your own RR should it get dispelled / fall off mid fight.

[Dantedmc]

Honestly rdm and sch subs aren't that different and each have situations where I would use one over the other.

rdm:
fast cast II - 5% faster casting 2.5% slower recast than /sch
phalanx
mab II
refresh -pretty much the same as sublimation
convert -for quick mp especially useful in abyssea with high hp/mp pools
dispel- that doesn't involve addendum
sleep - again no addendum
sleep II
gravity
blind - which /sch doesn't give

/rdm I actually solo'd my wivre haipin with cataclysm and phalanx. Phalanx and a -pdt set makes whm able to pull / hold weak mobs in abyssea. Rdm seems like a better sub in abyssea because you already have highly inflated stats so slightly better boosts / barspells won't matter as much. Accession also isn't such a huge deal when you usually only have 3 other ppl in your party at max.

sch:
light arts - main bonuses for this are b+ enhancing / enfeebling. 5% slower casting 2.5% faster recast than /rdm. 10% mp cost also nice
strategems - mainly accession
sublimation - pretty close to refresh, but nice to store one up

Sch is pretty much my exclusive vw sub for better boosts / barspells and accession

blm:
sleep
sleep II
sleepga
stun
warp
warpII
dispel

All nice utility spells and I could see why someone would use /blm in abyssea, just running around doing old content or climbing vw for a quick warp after the nm is done(if you have temps).

If you subbed rdm instead of sch or vice versa I honestly wouldn't care, they aren't that different. However you should have both at your disposal.

[Economizer]

own RR should it get dispelled

They changed this remember?

/rdm I actually solo'd my wivre haipin with cataclysm and phalanx. Phalanx and a -pdt set makes whm able to pull / hold weak mobs in abyssea. Rdm seems like a better sub in abyssea because you already have highly inflated stats so slightly better boosts / barspells won't matter as much. Accession also isn't such a huge deal when you usually only have 3 other ppl in your party at max.

For soloing with a Staff in Abyssea for a Cataclysm burn, Red Mage is the best sub due to MAB and Phalanx. However, because stats are so inflated in Abyssea, it is an even better idea to get the boost to Barspells since they'll have the most effect - like straight out resisting Slow and Petrify for Barstonra, or Gravity and Silence under Baraera (and when lowmaning you need everything you can for recast timers if things go bad).