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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
    For those off topic BLM mains:



    Haste (15%) + Fast Cast (7.5%) > Dark Arts (10%). But if you aren't solo, you should probably have someone casting Haste on you.

    Something nobody has mentioned is that /SCH gives access to weather spells and Klimaform as well. That means more accuracy for your spells and if you have the right gear (Obi + Twilight Cape) you get a 15% multiplicative (with your bonus from your staves) bonus to your nukes (all except thunder, dark and light based spells). That said, for Black Mage main, the choice isn't as cut and dry as White Mage main - sub job choices will be more situational by far.

    As before, the best sub for White Mage is Scholar. Red Mage is competitive in certain situations but is mostly the weaker sub, but I would put it in the same tier of usefulness and not discriminate party choices based on it.
    Speaking of, How does Haste work with Fast Cast? I'll assume it's not done in the way such as 15% Haste + 30% Fast cast (15% Recast) = 30% Recast reduction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Speaking of, How does Haste work with Fast Cast? I'll assume it's not done in the way such as 15% Haste + 30% Fast cast (15% Recast) = 30% Recast reduction
    Recast reduction stacks with haste (Haste + gear haste but I don't think from marches?) as long as you are not weakened (haste has no effect while weakened iirc).

    There used to be a cap of 50% but that was recently changed, so it is higher now.

    I know a lot of White Mages don't gear for it anymore but throwing on a bit of Haste gear can make a world of difference on your recast timers. Personally I've been eating the enmity increase on the Goading Belt, but there are other belt options (Witful Belt, Swift, Ninurta's Sash) that are available.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Oh, cool! I thought it'd end up being multiplicative, so would work out less with both Fast Cast and Haste.

    The gear certainly helps with spells like Haste and Refresh for RDM, though we lose 6 slots thanks to emp now still less casting.
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    A bit more then that actually, since Composure hurts recast timers (25%). Composure is still the job ability I'm most jealous of Red Mage having though (for combat anyways).
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