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    I find that i can fill a healer roll in more small Aby nm groups now and that is very nice; even though, Being the only healing magic can still take a lot of focus, timing, and knowing when to Rapture or not but that all part of the job

    Also I actually support the idea of dispel resistant buffs only if they were cast with Prep it sounds "balanced" enough to be something that the devs could actually consider doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesahade View Post
    I find that i can fill a healer roll in more small Aby nm groups now and that is very nice; even though, Being the only healing magic can still take a lot of focus, timing, and knowing when to Rapture or not but that all part of the job

    Also I actually support the idea of dispel resistant buffs only if they were cast with Prep it sounds "balanced" enough to be something that the devs could actually consider doing
    You don't think SCH is getting enough, without now getting a way of resisting dispel? Even if a Resist Dispel was to come SCH wouldn't get it. It'd come in the Spells BarDispel-ra and BarDark-ra/light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    You don't think SCH is getting enough, without now getting a way of resisting dispel? Even if a Resist Dispel was to come SCH wouldn't get it. It'd come in the Spells BarDispel-ra and BarDark-ra/light
    I fail to see how asking for a method to resist Dispel is asking for too much when one of the newer Stratagems is rendered absolutely worthless at the mere mention of Dispel.

    We shouldn't be forced out of using Perpetuance if it will get Dispelled, we should have a counter to Dispel. Blink for Dispel isn't asking too much. Cast it, it causes Dispel to miss X times then wears off. On anything with a low Dispel rate it works as insurance for Perpetuance. On anything with a high Dispel rate is becomes something you'd struggle to keep up instead of everyone else struggling to keep their buffs up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    I fail to see how asking for a method to resist Dispel is asking for too much when one of the newer Stratagems is rendered absolutely worthless at the mere mention of Dispel.

    We shouldn't be forced out of using Perpetuance if it will get Dispelled, we should have a counter to Dispel. Blink for Dispel isn't asking too much. Cast it, it causes Dispel to miss X times then wears off. On anything with a low Dispel rate it works as insurance for Perpetuance. On anything with a high Dispel rate is becomes something you'd struggle to keep up instead of everyone else struggling to keep their buffs up.
    Everyone suffers the same effect with Dispel, As for an ability/stratagem being basically redundant, this isn't unique to SCH only, RDM suffers with Enfeebles being near resisted by everything and Saboteur. Ultimately what you're asking for is to give SCH something they have nothing of any other ailment for a type of barspell. On the basis that a JA/Stratagem could become redundant should it be dispelled.

    I understand the annoyance, especially with the Dispel happy enemies recently, but this type of "bonus" makes no sense for SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Ultimately what you're asking for is to give SCH something they have nothing of any other ailment for a type of barspell. On the basis that a JA/Stratagem could become redundant should it be dispelled.
    Dispel is the only enfeebling magic that is not like all the others and leaves no lasting effect like sleep, poison, blind, paralyze, silence, ect. And a Bardark would be effective mostly against the spell Dispel and not necessarily all the other mob move dispels, seeing as they are not all dark elemental. I do not disagree that a bardark and light need to be added to the bar spells but there effectiveness on avoiding dispel isn't going to be all that good.

    I understand the annoyance, especially with the Dispel happy enemies recently, but this type of "bonus" makes no sense for SCH.
    And why do you feel that way? Even though Sch does not receive all that many native buff spells we still have more of a mastery of enhancing magic then other jobs in that we can make them AoE and last twice as long. You also make it sound as if this dispel resistance can be spammed but it is attached to our strat Prepetuance. On the other hand if it being attached to Prep is to unbalance what about in the new merit category a strat that give that effect to an enhancing spell that cost 2 strats? Then if it its own strat then i would see it working like AoE in that it does have some give and take. You get a dispel resistant spell but the duration of the spell is cut in half. then you counter that with Prep
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesahade View Post
    Dispel is the only enfeebling magic that is not like all the others and leaves no lasting effect like sleep, poison, blind, paralyze, silence, ect. And a Bardark would be effective mostly against the spell Dispel and not necessarily all the other mob move dispels, seeing as they are not all dark elemental. I do not disagree that a bardark and light need to be added to the bar spells but there effectiveness on avoiding dispel isn't going to be all that good.
    My suggestion was for both bardark-ra and bardispel-ra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    My suggestion was for both bardark-ra and bardispel-ra.
    Yes and i was pointing out that a Bardark-ra wouldn't necessary be a prevention of the dispel effect; and aslo, BarDispel doesn't fall in to the rest of line with the rest of the bar-status line seeing as dispel is not a status
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    Lol, here's an Idea: Make Libra put up an AoE buff that gets 'Dispelled First' status with no other benefit. Let's see how often people use Libra then, and having to be in the line of Fire isn't as much of a detriment then. lmfao!!!!
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