[Dev 1054] voidstones

[Nynja]

Sounds like your bitter both of your mules have meikira and you don't. It's okay my mule does to.

Nah, they dont have it...regardless does a system like that make sense?
The playerbase has offered plenty of possible solutions that keeps the random VW nature as is while not allowing to be exploitable (point system, ghost transferring of r/e item if the player allready has it), but the constant response is "NOP LALALALALALALALA". If they arent gonna budge from the drop system, what makes you think they'll budge from their other artificial cockblock (stone quantity)?

[abbazabba]

If SE intends to keep their focus purely on voidwatch I'd appreciate at least 2 more of the time reduction KI's so we can squeeze in two stones a day, which seems perfectly resonable.

This and adding another source of dust is all I'm asking for.

Nah, they dont have it...regardless does a system like that make sense?
The playerbase has offered plenty of possible solutions that keeps the random VW nature as is while not allowing to be exploitable (point system, ghost transferring of r/e item if the player allready has it), but the constant response is "NOP LALALALALALALALA". If they arent gonna budge from the drop system, what makes you think they'll budge from their other artificial cockblock (stone quantity)?

Because stones were intended to stop you from sitting at kaggen for 2hours farming bodies not letting anyone else get any kaggens because two other groups are doing what you are doing. Not as a limit to how much void watch you can do in a day. That and it isn't as big of a change as a point system or ghost transfer of loot if you have it coding wise. Which is what it comes down to for them. They have what 5 devs doing all the work of a team of 15? they can only spend X time on Y project.

[Nynja]

Because stones were intended to stop you from sitting at kaggen for 2hours farming bodies not letting anyone else get any kaggens because two other groups are doing what you are doing. Not as a limit to how much void watch you can do in a day. That and it isn't as big of a change as a point system or ghost transfer of loot if you have it coding wise. Which is what it comes down to for them. They have what 5 devs doing all the work of a team of 15? they can only spend X time on Y project.

Honest question ...have you ever run into a situation where all 3 rifts were camped with lineups and spamfests(would be pretty dumb since you popping without cells)? The most you can do is 5 in a row, presuming you store up a stone (and this wouldnt be practical in this situation as you'd have to get stones, store a stone, run and grab another stone...valuable time lost). There concept of there being 3 groups with overflow on one NM at any given time is laughable at best.

[abbazabba]

Ive run into a situation where all 3 rifts had a group at them yes. If they didn't have to go get new stones it would of sucked. Which is why there are stones to let other people use the rifts in that situation. Not to limit how much people can do in a day.

[Nynja]

Ive run into a situation where all 3 rifts had a group at them yes. If they didn't have to go get new stones it would of sucked. Which is why there are stones to let other people use the rifts in that situation. Not to limit how much people can do in a day.

Was it on patch day (or within the next couple days) when everyone was doing the new content?

I mean, the worms and turtles in gustav are overcamped they need more there...cept that was one time when ppl were farming lvl cap stuff, now theres not a soul in sight.

[Apelila]

Because stones were intended to stop you from sitting at kaggen for 2hours farming bodies not letting anyone else get any kaggens because two other groups are doing what you are doing. Not as a limit to how much void watch you can do in a day.

What says it can't do both?

[Shadowsong]

Because stones were intended to stop you from sitting at kaggen for 2hours farming bodies not letting anyone else get any kaggens because two other groups are doing what you are doing. Not as a limit to how much void watch you can do in a day.

This is a pretty far stretch, and I don't think many people would agree with your assumption.
"Stones" is an old mechanic (tags, ANNM, ISNM, Traversers) used for an old purpose, to limit how fast we get equipment. NOT to stop monopolies of content. It doesn't even do what you wrongly assumed it does, as you literally CAN purchase enough stones to monopolize a rift.

Edit: Also, doing VW every single day I have never seen every rift in a zone occupied, even the days following release.

People will be more open to you if you leave your assumptions and guesses out of the discussion. People like discussion not being preached at