Turn Windurst's School of Magic into a magic skill up place / BLU learning methods

[Luvbunny]

This is a great fantastic idea, so that Blue Mages can have options, they can learn the spells the old fashioned ways (cheap and time consuming) or pay gill and battle it out in colosseum (faster but a bit more costly).

[Vangoh]

I don't know how much credit this thread is gonna take, maybe I played Fable too much but here's the idea.
Some magic skills are hard to skill up (Enhancing magic comes to mind, but healing magic too if you can't go mess up with undeads), and so I thought why not get the School of Magic in Windurst to actually work and accept sign ups from players? I think it would be a good exploit to get higher skill up rates, or maybe there could be some trials that would award you with hard-to-obtain magic scrolls (like quest-able scrolls you can no longer quest, or rare drops scrolls), making them Ex so that RMTs can't abuse of it.
I know it sounds unnecessary but I think it would add some fun and also make Windurst the Academic City it's supposed to be by canon if you could see a lot of mages around there going to study new spells or blood pacts.

BLUs could get the same treatment by having special training in the Colosseum to fight against certain enemies to obtain their spells (maybe the lv91-99 ones?). I would really like to see an Immortals' Arena where BLUs can train together, maybe make BLU spells learn-able from player to player through PvP events in there (sorta like you could learn Kimahri's blue spells fighting against the other Ronso warriors in FFX). Wouldn't it be epic to have your blu friend be your spells mentor that way?

Let me know what do you think.

Didn't you frigging read my reply to your thread about "not finding help anymore"? I even gave you this idea back there go read it. It is the exact same thing I said. Go look on your thread and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Vangoh]

Hell here goes again...

"I'm not here to troll or anything but the reason why it gets harder to get help is because there are barely any new players, not like before. So now is harder to make friends and because of that is harder to have people that actually help you. I got over 40 people in friend list and most of them have quit and only 4 or 5 people will be there to help me from time to time.

Now, the truth of the matter is that people are very selfish and trust me you're not the first one to think this way, that people don't help anymore because people have ALWAYS been like this since way back in 2004 when I started playing. This is nothing new seriously.

About what you said of rewarding people for helping, I'm not sure if that's gonna cut it so my suggestion is to unite players, this is a good thread to post this idea I've thought for a while.

I always wanted to add something to let them socialize and get to know each other. It may sound very cliche but there should be like bars or something like that, back then before COP there weren't many places to go so I would wonder "what's with the outposts? are there people in there or what? would be nice to go inside and take a break from the fights and talk to people and whatever.

Another idea, and as silly as it sounds I think people would be interested in an alternate way of skilling up. So I thought some sort of gym would be perfect to know people and polish your skills. There are some jobs (mostly mages) that have problems skilling up their weapons and magic skills without worrying they're gonna get killed by the mob they're trying to skill up. It doesn't HAVE to be a gym, it can also be a boot camp during the shadow era and join the soldiers/knights/warlocks/rogues to boot camp. All that while talking with people.

YES it is hard to get things accomplish things because you need help, but there are going to be people that won't comply to help you no matter what you tell them or offer them and is not like you can force them. I tried to be as constructive as possible."

[Kjara]

Vangoh I think you misunderstood this thread. I am by no means asking for help with skill ups or blu learning spells (nor was I asking for help with that other thread). What am I suggesting here is an idea to skill up in a *funny* way, and to add more content to the game. I perfectly know how to skill up and I have my skill capped personally. The main point of the thread was to give a use to the school of Windurst other than looks and some spare quest/mission, and the Colosseum.

Game development is not always about making things easier for the players. People like me appreciate useless but fun things too to be added.

[Vangoh]

I'm talking about the bold part of the comment, forget about the rest. I'm just saying this is the same thing you started this thread with, a way (maybe fun way) to skill up and not only that I also emphasized on the social aspects.

[Kjara]

yeah and I give you credit for that, I've just been thinking about some in-game existing buildings that could have some potential and figured this would be worth having its own thread.^^

[arlais]

If I wanted to get my spells easily, I would have levelled another mage job. Spell hunting is the most fun I've had in the game, and it's great to kick back with a few BLU friends and have a little adventure, fun, and travel sometimes. Not just stand there and be bored.

[Kjara]

I don't know, I find the idea of BLU mentors and BLU apprentices in an arena pretty epic, nothing boring at all. I do enjoy BLU spells hunting as well but I'd like SE to add more options, achieving something with different styles is fun too. But like I said, I think I inherited this passion for 'school' games from Fable. *shrugs* always worth a shot proposing even just to see how many people share the idea.

[arlais]

Ideas are great to be shared, and I don't mean this in a horrible way, but blue mages going out and "wresting their strengths from their enemies" has always kind of been a staple of them throughout every final fantasy. Even in IX. I can't really see how a "school" where a blue mage learns their abilities to fit in well with the blue mage storyline either to be honest.

It sounds a little harsh, but I don't mean it to be this way. I respect blue mages for the spells they've managed to get (especially pre cap with sea spells); to me the suggestion is akin to suggesting a walk-in-wardrobe where you can copy and clone the equipment of anyone that walks in.

[Megatron]

i dont mean to sound harsh or anythign . but if your skills are capped and merited why would you even care if they thought of intruducing it? theres absoultly no purpose to it other then generating a new generation of mindless players who have no consept of how to do ther jobs here is a nice example.

i'm in abyssea doing dom opps Saturday up upping some gaxe skill becasue its not capped and im waiting for my next ls event and i got nothing else to do. just like clock work i see a BLM fall over dead. then the next pull another one fall over dead till all 3 are dead. fast farward 5 mins and the cycle is repeated. no skin off my nose im not dieing so i say nothing. i just laugh at them killing themselves. then it starts "wow <insert name> you really throwing out some damage" "yea hes a awsome BLM" "yea i smoke these guys" i start really watching. no Stoneskin, no blink, phalanx, no shadows, no mana Wall no mana douse. teal gear. mob gets pulled at 75% he nukes, the mob then runs over and beats him to death. i say your nukling to early try around 50%. there responce back
" if i nuke at 50% the mobs hp is down to 14% when the spell goes off bro" "so then you one shot it i dont see the problem"
" i dont think you need to be schooling me bro" of couse he dies about 20 more times. then goes and changes to sam. and then goes AFK the rest of the time i was there.

the easier/dumber they make the game the more people of this caliber are produced. until befoe you know it your surrounded with a server of level 90 people who cant walk and chew gum. its funny the more they make this game easier the more people dont try. the more they want it weasier and effortless. just watch in a few more updates you wont even have to level at all. just pay your monthly sub and SE will level and get the gear for you. be pratical. its all we need is a bunch of new players who jsut stand ther drooling on themselves woundering when ther getting +2 gear. and no offese fable isnt a mmo. and u cant do the same thing like that on a real mmo.