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[Greatguardian]

I never once said it was even remotely considered adequate, what i said is ive seen people more interested in combat skills and spells at times rather than gear in some voidwatch groups ive been in, so far that ive seen a perle sam with just +1 unkai head invited on the grounds that they had their skill high enough to trigger weaknesses.

And yeah this thread is off topic, they all go off topic. Ill give you a translation when you explain to me how we got into the high-tier economics in the first place. The redmage forum is MADE of derails, spins, detractions, infighting, and insults slung about. And to be totally honest to you, i dont care if you ignore how people look at you, i really dont, and honestly, i dont dislike you, i dislike the way you behave. When people see your posts, constantly filled with venom and an thickly implied layer of "you should suck less" in damn near every statement you make, how can you really hope that people will agree with you on anything?

Insulting, condesending, unsupportive. Those three qualities stand out in your posts and theyre terrible personality traits. I fear i will be adding you to ignore soon because even with best intentions, all i ever hear from you is disreguard for anyone outside your perfect little world.

When the post boils down to "It's not fair that Comet is so expensive, why do mages have to pay so much gil for spells when Melee don't?", there's really nothing more to say aside from "You should suck less".

It's not like Seri doesn't know how to make gil. It's not like most players in general don't know how to make gil, or couldn't make the 2M for comet in a couple days if they set a goal and worked towards it. They simply don't, and I have no sympathy for them for it.

Contrary to what Saevel seems to think, I'm not a hardcore player - nor do I try to pass myself off as one. I am, however, a player who loves to learn and enjoys being challenged for the sake of a challenge. Yeah, I do Voidwatch regularly. But I don't expect to ever get anything of value from it, honestly. Who would? The drop rates are ass. I have 0 bodies, and probably won't ever get one unless they continue increasing drop rates by a significant amount or change the loot system as they move into Part 3.5 and beyond. I do Voidwatch because I enjoy killing things with other players whose company I enjoy.

But hey, you know what, contrary to popular belief, there isn't an insurmountable wall between playing the game for fun and succeeding at it. Obviously, if you were to listen to people like Saevel and Hayward, anyone who succeeds in this game must only care about their social status, egos, or phat lootz. But honestly, and I'm being 100% straight up about this, what the fuck exists in this game that's legitimately difficult to obtain?

Seriously. Name one thing.

That's right. Nothing. So what sort of pride, or ego is one going to develop when it's clear that things aren't hard to acquire? Big whoop I got a few Emps that took less than a week to make? Hurray, I have some shiny +2 armor that took all of a couple hours. Hooray for me, I'm so awesome for ... doing... what, exactly?

But therein lies the conundrum of the masses. I have been hacked, had my character stripped to nothing, and rebuilt from scratch to surpass people with mountainous head starts on me. Why? Because I'm smart, because I have friends, and because I actually work for my bread.

If people want tips on how to make gil quickly, I'll recite them off all day. Want gear advice? No problem. If anyone, anywhere, wants to know how they can be better, I'm down with that.

But the average player on these boards doesn't want that. They just want me to give them gil, or to make an Ochain for them "because it's so easy, right?". People want something for nothing and that does not happen.

So I'm sorry if some random can't afford Comet, or Blizzaja, or Temper. They take all of a few hours to save up for. If you want nice things, get with the program and go get them. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who resigns themselves to mediocrity. "I can't" is bullshit. All these people are saying is "I won't".

[Seriha]

If people want tips on how to make gil quickly, I'll recite them off all day.

Be charitable. Start a thread in the main section doing just that. Just don't be surprised if it draws criticism on the more luck-heavy elements, be it drop rates or having (the right) people and/or multiple accounts at your disposal just to do a given event. That in mind, I think you're far too quick to call people lazy or other unsavory terms.

[Neisan_Quetz]

It's been mentioned several times, I think you're not trying hard enough.

[Greatguardian]

Be charitable. Start a thread in the main section doing just that. Just don't be surprised if it draws criticism on the more luck-heavy elements, be it drop rates or having (the right) people and/or multiple accounts at your disposal just to do a given event. That in mind, I think you're far too quick to call people lazy or other unsavory terms.

Make an exp alliance an hour before you go to bed, give someone you know lead (or at least someone that won't kick you), and afk overnight for one thing. Is this a serious question?

Dispersal of information is hardly a problem. People know that Cruor = Gil. They just don't act on it. If you, personally, want tips on making gil you can ask more specific questions. However, I have little interest in trying to spread easily obtainable information to the masses. Like I said earlier, most people know how to make gil at a reasonable pace - they just don't do it.

[Seriha]

Actually, I think it's more you don't know as much as you're trying to claim. Kicking things off with the assumption someone can just leave their game on overnight isn't the best of starts, really. This whole, "I'm a nice guy, buuuut..." routine is getting tiresome.

[Greatguardian]

Actually, I think it's more you don't know as much as you're trying to claim. Kicking things off with the assumption someone can just leave their game on overnight isn't the best of starts, really. This whole, "I'm a nice guy, buuuut..." routine is getting tiresome.

If you have a specific question, ask it. Look around. I've never given anything but straight and honest answers to sincere and specific questions. You just don't find many of those in this subforum.

[Seriha]

I'm not personally looking for gil making tips since the only reason I'd really need it to is to make a relic, which I'm not particularly interested in. I am, however, mindful of those who do have problems making cash and aren't an 8+ year veteran of the game. Not everyone has the same resources to get shit done, and I balked at the above because it assumes your gaming device of choice won't need to be used by someone else or that the electricity bill really isn't an issue. From there, it's a matter of the party lasting long enough, or at least under the charge of your friend/leader, to be any appreciable progress and hoping you're not accidentally killed/disconnected while AFK, or lead somehow falling to you while AFK with the party deciding to reform.

Now, if you wanted to be a bit more industrious and propose something like, "Farm rams in La Theine!" I would've been a bit more receptive. I wouldn't call that appreciably fast gil in an economy requiring multi-million gil purchases, nor was I particularly fond of the "back in the day" aspect of suggesting someone farm 150 stacks of beehive chips for a Haubergeon. It's also pretty mundane, aka not fun in something that's supposed to be entertaining. With crafting largely in the dumps, general farming also isn't as good as it could be. So yeah, this mainly leaves big ticket drops or the cruor machine. The latter might be the most easily accessed, but I think most are getting their cruor from EXP parties rather than cruor parties specifically. Shouts for such on Sylph, from what I've seen chilling in Jeuno, aren't especially common, either.

[Greatguardian]

Farming Rams, and nearly all farming in general has always been woefully inefficient. People liked it because it felt like they were working, though all that work was done with their hands and not their minds.

Obviously what someone is able to do is dependent on their means and situation, which is why I asked if you had a specific question with actual details. Since you don't, I don't have anything to give you. You're just looking for generalized snippets that you can shoot down due to one hypothetical situation or another. That's why general tips are lame.

Off topic, you must live in bodunk nowhere if your computer staying on actually affects your electricity bill to any discernible degree. I never pay more than $30/month for electricity living by myself and my enthusiast PC rig is almost always on.

Back on topic, obligatory "Maybe if you spent less time chilling in Jeuno and more time being productive then the price of goods wouldn't bother you so much" post.

[Seriha]

Reading backscroll after taking a break is hard, I guess. Crap, just implied I did things other than play FFXI. /afkkillingself

Anyway, I'm done for now. Indulge in the last word if you feel inclined. The FFXI I see and the FFXI you see are apparently very different worlds.

[Greatguardian]

Personally, if I'm not playing I just don't log in. If I'm just going to stare at my moogle or afk in Jeuno while watching tv, I may as well just watch tv without ffxi open. Most of my game friends have me on skype anyways so it's not like I'm missing out by not being logged in.

To each his own, though. It hardly requires much time, or much effort to make gil. It requires setting goals and actually working sometimes, but what doesn't?

We're back at square one. You say prices are unfair. I say prices are representative of the value of people's time. Instead of trying to improve, you just shoot things down because you want an excuse to fail. 'Oh, drop rates are terrible'. 'Oh, that requires too many people'. 'Oh, that requires too much time'. 'Oh, I have a real life you know!'. 'Oh, I have no luck at all'.

Honestly, that's the biggest reason there's such a huge gap in the playerbase. People don't want to succeed. They just want to feel good about failing.