Magic Acc+ Staffs

[Neisan_Quetz]

Only Sch exclusive proc left is Modus isn't it? I'd rather take a Rdm.

[Seriha]

If people want tips on how to make gil quickly, I'll recite them off all day.

Be charitable. Start a thread in the main section doing just that. Just don't be surprised if it draws criticism on the more luck-heavy elements, be it drop rates or having (the right) people and/or multiple accounts at your disposal just to do a given event. That in mind, I think you're far too quick to call people lazy or other unsavory terms.

[Greatguardian]

Be charitable. Start a thread in the main section doing just that. Just don't be surprised if it draws criticism on the more luck-heavy elements, be it drop rates or having (the right) people and/or multiple accounts at your disposal just to do a given event. That in mind, I think you're far too quick to call people lazy or other unsavory terms.

Make an exp alliance an hour before you go to bed, give someone you know lead (or at least someone that won't kick you), and afk overnight for one thing. Is this a serious question?

Dispersal of information is hardly a problem. People know that Cruor = Gil. They just don't act on it. If you, personally, want tips on making gil you can ask more specific questions. However, I have little interest in trying to spread easily obtainable information to the masses. Like I said earlier, most people know how to make gil at a reasonable pace - they just don't do it.

[Neisan_Quetz]

It's been mentioned several times, I think you're not trying hard enough.

[Seriha]

Actually, I think it's more you don't know as much as you're trying to claim. Kicking things off with the assumption someone can just leave their game on overnight isn't the best of starts, really. This whole, "I'm a nice guy, buuuut..." routine is getting tiresome.

[Greatguardian]

Actually, I think it's more you don't know as much as you're trying to claim. Kicking things off with the assumption someone can just leave their game on overnight isn't the best of starts, really. This whole, "I'm a nice guy, buuuut..." routine is getting tiresome.

If you have a specific question, ask it. Look around. I've never given anything but straight and honest answers to sincere and specific questions. You just don't find many of those in this subforum.

[Seriha]

I'm not personally looking for gil making tips since the only reason I'd really need it to is to make a relic, which I'm not particularly interested in. I am, however, mindful of those who do have problems making cash and aren't an 8+ year veteran of the game. Not everyone has the same resources to get shit done, and I balked at the above because it assumes your gaming device of choice won't need to be used by someone else or that the electricity bill really isn't an issue. From there, it's a matter of the party lasting long enough, or at least under the charge of your friend/leader, to be any appreciable progress and hoping you're not accidentally killed/disconnected while AFK, or lead somehow falling to you while AFK with the party deciding to reform.

Now, if you wanted to be a bit more industrious and propose something like, "Farm rams in La Theine!" I would've been a bit more receptive. I wouldn't call that appreciably fast gil in an economy requiring multi-million gil purchases, nor was I particularly fond of the "back in the day" aspect of suggesting someone farm 150 stacks of beehive chips for a Haubergeon. It's also pretty mundane, aka not fun in something that's supposed to be entertaining. With crafting largely in the dumps, general farming also isn't as good as it could be. So yeah, this mainly leaves big ticket drops or the cruor machine. The latter might be the most easily accessed, but I think most are getting their cruor from EXP parties rather than cruor parties specifically. Shouts for such on Sylph, from what I've seen chilling in Jeuno, aren't especially common, either.

[Greatguardian]

Farming Rams, and nearly all farming in general has always been woefully inefficient. People liked it because it felt like they were working, though all that work was done with their hands and not their minds.

Obviously what someone is able to do is dependent on their means and situation, which is why I asked if you had a specific question with actual details. Since you don't, I don't have anything to give you. You're just looking for generalized snippets that you can shoot down due to one hypothetical situation or another. That's why general tips are lame.

Off topic, you must live in bodunk nowhere if your computer staying on actually affects your electricity bill to any discernible degree. I never pay more than $30/month for electricity living by myself and my enthusiast PC rig is almost always on.

Back on topic, obligatory "Maybe if you spent less time chilling in Jeuno and more time being productive then the price of goods wouldn't bother you so much" post.

[Seriha]

Reading backscroll after taking a break is hard, I guess. Crap, just implied I did things other than play FFXI. /afkkillingself

Anyway, I'm done for now. Indulge in the last word if you feel inclined. The FFXI I see and the FFXI you see are apparently very different worlds.

[Greatguardian]

Personally, if I'm not playing I just don't log in. If I'm just going to stare at my moogle or afk in Jeuno while watching tv, I may as well just watch tv without ffxi open. Most of my game friends have me on skype anyways so it's not like I'm missing out by not being logged in.

To each his own, though. It hardly requires much time, or much effort to make gil. It requires setting goals and actually working sometimes, but what doesn't?

We're back at square one. You say prices are unfair. I say prices are representative of the value of people's time. Instead of trying to improve, you just shoot things down because you want an excuse to fail. 'Oh, drop rates are terrible'. 'Oh, that requires too many people'. 'Oh, that requires too much time'. 'Oh, I have a real life you know!'. 'Oh, I have no luck at all'.

Honestly, that's the biggest reason there's such a huge gap in the playerbase. People don't want to succeed. They just want to feel good about failing.