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    Player Zerich's Avatar
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    Magic Acc+ Staffs

    Any RDM's built them, and if so, do they land previously resisted spells?
    Not trying to be a downer, but if that's the case...yeah.
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    As far as I can tell no. Your best bet is to use Elemental Seal if you're being heavily resisted, if you're still getting resisted after seal it's pretty much immune.
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    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    Dark Magian Sword lvl 99. +100 MP, +16 MAC. You can Dual Wield them. I'm assuming two of these is better than a staff.

    To my knowledge, almost everything is either immune or you land it easily.
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    No, the elemental affinity magic accuracy staves are way better than macc sticks, even dual wielded. They barely beat HQ elemental staves.
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    Macc swords are asking to be laughed at. They are useless. If you made one, throw it away. Just, forget it ever happened.
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    Nothing can fix the resist/immune rates at this point other than SE. We already have a insane amount of gear with +skill enfeebling on it. But it really all comes down to is Balance > functional RDM. I guess we should all be content to have at least one enfeeble land per end boss I guess.

    Edit: go go addle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    You can Dual Wield them. I'm assuming two of these is better than a staff.
    Each Sword gives +16 mACC. The specific elemental staves give +60 mACC. Dual Wielding two is equivalent to an HQ level 51 Staff plus the appropriate magic accuracy strap, but will save you 8-16 inventory slots. Really, the main thing with the swords is being able to save inventory space and be able to do some light melee (398 skill vs. an absolute highest of 150 skill). Basically, you sacrifice being the best at either one of the things to save inventory and be able to rapidly reply to multiple situations.

    I wouldn't begrudge someone carrying one of these in one of their melee slots for some magic accuracy while meleeing as either a RDM/BLU but ultimately if you are looking for all out magical or all out melee they aren't the best for either.

    As a bit of an afterthought, even a Murgleis only gets +25 mACC at 95 with the test stats for 99 being +30 mACC, meaning that if you managed to get one and dual wield it with one of the magic accuracy swords, you's still only be about 14~19 mACC away from the elemental accuracy magian staves. Even plopping down a Death Blossom on top of that leaves you 4~9 points away unless SE buffs the effect on that, and a Staff user can still equip a strap.
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    Sure, if you never nuke ever at all and want to be even more supbar at meleeing. They save 0 space for anyone half decent at the job. If you were unfortunate enough to have made them, I'm sorry you wasted your time, but at least others may learn from your mistake, and not make the same one.
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    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    Man all i'm hearing is NQ and GG still talk like spending any time on a RDM is anything but a waste of time. Jobs broke. You play it for fun. Blah blah blag RDM<BLM for nukes and that wasn't even the question. The question was if elemental staves are worth making on a RDM. The answer is no. You won't stick enfeebles any better and you'll never nuke better than a BLM. Welcome to RDM, balance means that you're probably never actually be legitimately useful. Fun.
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    Player Seriha's Avatar
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    My only gripe with calling the MACC swords useless is that they can be useful to Convert sets with the MP. Maybe not so much if you're Taru, but a higher likelihood with Galka and other races depending on your gear and how anal you are about a 1:1 ratio, especially if using a non-MP sub like /NIN or /DNC.
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