Dragoon Updates!

[Transmit]

I have to echo this opinion. YES it's good we're getting Spirit Surge changed to JA haste over magic haste, but why do we need to have the duration shortened? DRK can do a similar move every 5 minutes which lasts for 3 minutes which comes with a comparable second buff to the rest of the boosts we get, but 90 seconds for us is too long and should be shortened? That makes no sense.

[Drai]

I have to echo this opinion. YES it's good we're getting Spirit Surge changed to JA haste over magic haste, but why do we need to have the duration shortened? DRK can do a similar move every 5 minutes which lasts for 3 minutes which comes with a comparable second buff to the rest of the boosts we get, but 90 seconds for us is too long and should be shortened? That makes no sense.

plus we actually seem to lose DPS during our 2 hour because we have to sacrifice our wyvern to use it, I don't understand why our 2 hour can't just give both us and our Wyverns a stat boost, and while you're at it make Call Wyvern 5 minute recast pls, trying to get Breath staggers in VW is impossible and our Wyverns die in like 15-20 seconds with AoE's anyways.

I basically have to NOT summon my Wyvern until I see a Breath stagger, than 99% of the time it won't use it so we have to lower the mobs resists enough until it decides to use the correct one, I don't understand why just letting us choose which breath it uses with Smiting Breath would break the game >.>.

[Helel]

Oh, well I guess the recast limitation is why double shot shares the same recast as unlimited shot... Seriously, the two JAs have NOTHING in common. I know this is DRG forum but, just wanted to point out how dumb the limitation is. This should have been top priority when these new JAs were introduced... not now.

[loldrg]

How about a tiered JT haste? You know, @ lv 30, 50, 70 etc etc, 1% haste each increment for a total of 5% @ 99. Since we can't get a decent attack bonus trait, maybe a trade off for faster attacks. If it falls under equipment haste, then we would only have to gear for 20%(21% for you sticklers) to reach cap and can mix up our current gear selection to improve attack via gear. If it goes another route via magical haste or JA haste, even better i suppose. Or just give us a attack bonus JA/JT that's worthwhile. Surprise us SE, THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX!

[Coldbrand]

How about a tiered JT haste? You know, @ lv 30, 50, 70 etc etc, 1% haste each increment for a total of 5% @ 99. Since we can't get a decent attack bonus trait, maybe a trade off for faster attacks. If it falls under equipment haste, then we would only have to gear for 20%(21% for you sticklers) to reach cap and can mix up our current gear selection to improve attack via gear. If it goes another route via magical haste or JA haste, even better i suppose. Or just give us a attack bonus JA/JT that's worthwhile. Surprise us SE, THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX!

JT haste would be AWESOME, sup new x-hit setups and ease of squeezing in more attack/str.

[Ophannus]

Wonder if the recast limitation means we won't be getting new JAs 96-99 for any job.

[Coldbrand]

Wonder if the recast limitation means we won't be getting new JAs 96-99 for any job.

That'd be so pathetic.

[Babekeke]

while you're at it make Call Wyvern 5 minute recast pls, trying to get Breath staggers in VW is impossible and our Wyverns die in like 15-20 seconds with AoE's anyways.

I basically have to NOT summon my Wyvern until I see a Breath stagger, than 99% of the time it won't use it so we have to lower the mobs resists enough until it decides to use the correct one, I don't understand why just letting us choose which breath it uses with Smiting Breath would break the game >.>.

Slightly off-topic, I've not got to play DRG in VW yet so I have to ask: Does the wyvern vanish when you pop the VWNM, like avatars do?

[Transmit]

It doesnt depop like Avatars do, but if the wyvern hangs about for a TP move or two it vanishes quick enough!

[Economizer]

Wonder if the recast limitation means we won't be getting new JAs 96-99 for any job.

All they would have to do is make all job ability timers over level 50 share recast timers with other job's timers that are also above level 50. Since 2hour timers are already shared and all other timers are 20 minutes or less, this wouldn't lead to too much of a problem when switching between jobs.

Currently the most job abilities a job has above level 50 (or even job specific timers) is roughly six, ignoring shared timers. Add one to this for the two hour timer and you have a current amount of seven timers.

Ignoring job specific job timers like Afflatus Solace or Yonin, we have the following unique job abilities. Considering that I'm more or less just trying to jot this out, there may be errors in what job abilities share timers, so feel free to help correct this list:

1. Pianissimo
2. Fight
3. Charm
4. Gauge
5. Heel/Stay
6. Reward
7. Sic/Ready
8. Call Beast
9. Tame
10. Leave
11. Snarl
12. Elemental Seal
13. Burst Affinity
14. Chain Affinity
15. Phantom Roll
16. Double-Up
17. Quick Draw
18. Sambas
19. Waltzes
20. Steps
21. Flourishes I
22. Jigs
23. Flourishes II
24. Arcane Circle
25. Last Resort
26. Weapon Bash
27. Souleater
28. Ancient Circle
29. Jump
30. Spirit Link
31. High Jump
32. Boost
33. Dodge
34. Focus
35. Chakra
36. Chi Blast
37. Counterstance
38. Holy Circle
39. Shield Bash
40. Sentinel
41. Cover
42. Activate
43. Deploy
44. Deactivate
45. Maneuvers
46. Deus Ex Automata
47. Retrieve
48. Repair
49. Sharpshot
50. Scavenge
51. Camouflage
52. Barrage
53. Shadowbind
54. Velocity Shot
55. Convert
56. Warding Circle
57. Third Eye
58. Hasso
59. Meditate
60. Seigan
61. Sekkanoki
62. Light Arts
63. Dark Arts
64. Sublimation
65. Assault
66. Blood Pact: Rage
67. Blood Pact: Ward
68. Release
69. Retreat
70. Steal
71. Sneak Attack
72. Flee
73. Trick Attack
74. Mug
75. Hide
76. Provoke
77. Berserk
78. Defender
79. Warcry
80. Aggressor
81. Divine Seal

Now some of these share timers with job specific ones that are higher, particularly for Thief and Dragoon.

Certain things could be adjusted, for example Shield/Weapon Bash could share a timer, or stuff like the Arcane/Undead/etc Circles could share a recast timer with each other. Certain pet abilities could be made to share timers since you can only have one pet at a time, if they haven't been made to already.

Assuming SE has a nice even amount of job abilities we can probably assume the limit is something like 128, or perhaps higher if other factors like spells are in, or more if they were inefficient with the timers or some other factor. Still, we can't know for sure and we are unlikely to know for sure.

Basically, if they haven't already, they could have job abilities past 50 share timers as well as any improvement to these 80+ job ability timers to reduce their number. Nobody can use Enlightenment, Sabre Dance, or Devotion at the same time, so it only makes sense to have them share timers as appropriate.