The OFFICIAL "I intend on Quitting, and here is why" Thread

[Alerith]

To get my last pay check I had to do a exit survey at my last job. It was to help the company know where they went wrong in keeping you around. It had one box for the reason and then more for ways for the company to improve and retain employees. Thats the line of thinking that if SE knows where the lost the player they can fix it you know other companies pay out the butt to get other compnies to do that.

I had to do a survey like that before getting out of the military. I told them what I really thought and how I really felt. I wish I could see my C.O.'s face when he read through it.

[CapriciousOne]

I dont log in and play anymore and I havent for some time. I just cruise the boards now and then after an update to see what ppl feel about the new content and if its still worth my holding onto. Honestly I am waiting until the next roadmap before I completely close my account. If they are going to give us another HUGE expansion I will stay to check it out but if its just a few little things I will cancel completely.

And I LOVE how ppl who havent played xiv since just after beta or havent played it at all like to dog on it. "I will NEVER play another SE title EVER!" Sure ya wont. The fact of the matter is they are spending money on xiv, and alot of it, but not on xi. XIV is suffering from lack of content atm due to them fixing what tanaka broke but come feb in one of the major updates we get every 2 months, the content is going to start coming in and continue to do so until v2. It was even said the first xiv expansion is in developement. Seemings our server has about 1k ppl on it at any given time even tho its a 'fail game' should show how its progressing.

XI players are so raging against XIV its almost comical. But I bet you no matter how much u rage or deny, you will end up on xiv at some point of time

Well I havent played FFXIV at all and dont dog on it but I feel the exact same way. For example, back in 2005/2006 when the gaming industry was more wide open with football games I really used to love playing and watching the sport as a whole. After the whole exclusive licensing deal with Electronic Arts and the NFL took places effectively eliminating good alternatives of football games beyond just Madden like NFL Gameday and ESPN 2k5 I have yet to buy another Electronic Arts branded titled and pretty much all but stop watching NFL football altogether. Factor in the attempt at Electronic Arts attempted to buy out its prime competitor at the time with Need for Speed in Midnight Club by trying to purchase Take 2 Interactive and it was all she wrote.

My point being illustrated if you havent cought on to it yet is that despite how good or bad something else is, companies that play to win know that the customer base is key to staying afloat long term. I'm not saying giving us everything we as for per se but we rarely get ANYTHING we ask for EXACTLY how we ask for it is always CONDITIONAL. It is possible for people to like and even love something and stay away or WALK AWAY from just based on how a company conduct itself. We live in an age where companies rather buy the competition than actually be innovative and creative and find new ways to compete. Has nobody been paying attention to real life and the global economic collapse and not noticed it?

SquareEnix or the executives who represent them are clearly displaying this same level of idiocy. I cant remember the post exactly but I'm sure it is on this forum and if not I think it is on Wikipedia but didnt SquareEnix almost go out of business at one point and was inspired to create this game as a result? seems they want to revisit that experience like they are getting homesick or something. The game and the behavior displayed between us and them on the forums clearly displays what their priorities are and it clearly isnt FFXI or Final Fantasy fans from where I sit.

Personally I have already quit this game and cancelled this game and WOULD LOVE to see this GAME and COMPANY restored to its former glory but I have GIVEN UP ON SQUAREENIX LIKE THEY HAVE APPARENTLY GIVEN UP ON US !!!! Assuming they every cared in the first place wasnt a total act.

Reasons for quiting:

1 NO REAL FREEDOM- I thought the idea of creating your armor was great til i realized your selection of enchanted stuff was so limited. I though hey I could be a mage enchant all ingots, cloths, with whatever offensive, defensive spells I had access to then create it into final form for the best equipment to suit my play style. BOY WAS I WRONG. Even when they tried to improve it with Synergy I was still disappointed. All the mob based boosts is bs as I fight so many different mobs and refuse to clutter up my inventory with 50 different weapons for so many different mobs as well as macro spaces which i already have so many of that I basically slip up and pick the wrong set as is let alone add macros for armor too? No thanks

2 SOLOING - while partying is nice at times it is also a pain in the ass. Solo I have a higher tolerance for getting hit even as a mage than even most damage dealers can tolerate and being in parties dont always work. Alot of the content makes you heavily dependent on that dynamic that quite frankly isnt always adequate. For Bastok rank misssion 9-2 with all those slimes in Guatav Tunnel that divided. We did a run with an alliance that obvious had ppl that had no clue on what to do and even when we tried to explain the strategy they didnt even listen. so even with the alliance of like 18 we still failed but when kicked the other 12 ppl that were holding us down we got it done with only 6 ppl and only 2 at level 75. While partying is nice most of this stuff can be done with low man parties with good strategy and patience which most ppl rarely have. If SE stop watering down our jobs, weapons and armor and stuff, I'm sure more jobs could probably get more done alone than some can party. Partying should be an OPTION PERIOD EVEN IN A MMO. If you take a look at Dungeon and Dragons online you can totally do the same exact quest solo and there are harder difficulty levels that you clearly will need a party of people for if you CHOOSE to do them but it is a CHOICE.

3. As mentioned in 2. Weaking jobs instead of making mobs smarter and stronger. Taking away abilities and spells or making them weaker when they are cornerstones of the jobs in question like Enfeebling for Red Mage is bs when they supposed to be the best as a prime example.

4. Some interface enhancements. - I would love to be able to search an area in the past and see how many have allied tags so I could decide on whether or not to warp to that area or not. Same with besieged which also almost rarely happens like ever. I also heard there was a time wear you could improve your skills in Campaign at one point but apparently I missed that in my 2 years of playing or came just after it stopped.

5. Im not an idiot- Why keep giving somebody your money, no how small, when they arent giving you the service you feel you deserve? If you bought a car and it blew up and damn near killed you soon as you drove it off the lot, you would have your lawyer on the phone as soon as you could ready to sue the pants of the dealer and manufacturer in a hear beat. While clearly not as serious obviously and no need for litigation why would tolerate this from them regardless if it is a game? It is still your 9 to 5, taxed to hell, already spent before you even get it and lucky to have whatever is left over after all major bills is paid off MONEY. So why should you just accept anything less than what you otherwise expect no matter how long the company has been around?

Oh and 6. The playerbase themselves but this isnt SE fault directly but some of the way they have developed jobs, and content certainly havent helped it at all. I like to think there is a large player base that get stuff done regardless of what jobs are there even if the jobs arent OPTIMALLY geared or even greatly experienced for that matter but this game doesnt lend to that now does it?

[Aldersyde]

To get my last pay check I had to do a exit survey at my last job. It was to help the company know where they went wrong in keeping you around. It had one box for the reason and then more for ways for the company to improve and retain employees. Thats the line of thinking that if SE knows where the lost the player they can fix it you know other companies pay out the butt to get other compnies to do that.

That was my thought, this kind of being like an exit interview. Unfortunately, I don't think they will benefit from it because I honestly do not think they want to improve FFXI. I'm pretty convinced their concept of "balance" is to make the game play of FFXI suck as much as the game play of FFXIV, then hope that people will come over to it just because it has shiny new graphics and new stories.

On another note, companies (at least in Canada) cannot pull that "we're keeping your pay check until you do an exit interview" crap. A few years ago, a company that was absolute hell to work for tried that on me and I told them they did not have a right to waste my time without compensation any longer. I walked out of the office, called the provincial labor standards board, stated the problem, gave them the number of the human resource rep, and three days later had a check in my hands via courier.

Fuck giving companies suggestions on how to better their work place environments when they had no interest in doing so while said employee was actually there.

[Oanomochi]

I had to do a survey like that before getting out of the military. I told them what I really thought and how I really felt. I wish I could see my C.O.'s face when he read through it.

I was in the Army too. Your C.O. prob could care less. Next man up. But when I left my 1st Sgt. met me at my truck, gave me a hug and told me to call him when I get back home to make sure I made it there ok. Brass could care less but the NCOs are family. Brotherhood! Wish I never left actualy.

[Rewyen]

I was in the Army too. Your C.O. prob could care less. Next man up. But when I left my 1st Sgt. met me at my truck, gave me a hug and told me to call him when I get back home to make sure I made it there ok. Brass could care less but the NCOs are family. Brotherhood! Wish I never left actualy.

I'll back that statement. I saw my first CO not too long ago and he didn't know who the hell I was. My XO was different though, but I think that's because we tied his laces to a cot, sealed the tent and tossed in a MRE bomb. Push ups were totally worth it. NCO's are more real. My NCO's had my back for anything, likewise, when I made E-5, I would always have my squads back. I miss that.

[Malamasala]

Personally I would have quite years ago. But I have this investment fallacy. I've paid so much, that I'd like to play at least one month of a good FFXI. It is just that it never gets good, so I keep investing more money, and feel even more that I need to stick around until the first good update hits.

Kind of silly really, that I'm only playing FFXI still because it is bad. If it had been good, I'd have quit. I guess SE already know there are plenty like me, and they purposely just do worthless updates.

[Runespider]

It's quickly getting to the point where the team in charge right now are so stuck on balancing everything they are forgetting this is supposed to be a fun game, the abyssea team got that. Whoever we have now doesn't.

That is what will make people quit.

[Raborn]

I'm not planning on leaving anytime soon, there are numerous things I'd like to see change in FFXI, there are numerous things I'd wish hadn't changed in FFXI, But I've finally achieved a balance and am playing with a very good, and very nice group of friends whom I wouldn't trade anything in the past I've done or achieved for.
When I finally do quit, it will be because there is absolutely nothing left to accomplish story wise, grinding was good back when MMORPG's first came out but its time to give the grinding a rest, FFXI was a grind game, and is starting to become one again.
We need to cut PS2 off of our market, what type of contract did you guys sign? Cut XBOX, Keep 360 until it becomes a burden, make new expansions, make more monsters, make new story lines, get people involved, give nice stuff for accomplishing goals.
Most of all make new areas to explore, or don't cut PS2 just make it so that they can't get the expansion unless you play on PC or 360 (I'd do away with 360 entirely, I can't stand consoles for online gaming other than FPS, 360 has enough issues already).
I'm probably pissing off half the player base saying screw 360, but I don't care, its the truth, you'd be holding the game back too if SE had cut PS2 a few years ago.

[Aldersyde]

I'm not planning on leaving anytime soon, there are numerous things I'd like to see change in FFXI, there are numerous things I'd wish hadn't changed in FFXI, But I've finally achieved a balance and am playing with a very good, and very nice group of friends whom I wouldn't trade anything in the past I've done or achieved for.
When I finally do quit, it will be because there is absolutely nothing left to accomplish story wise, grinding was good back when MMORPG's first came out but its time to give the grinding a rest, FFXI was a grind game, and is starting to become one again.
We need to cut PS2 off of our market, what type of contract did you guys sign? Cut XBOX, Keep 360 until it becomes a burden, make new expansions, make more monsters, make new story lines, get people involved, give nice stuff for accomplishing goals.
Most of all make new areas to explore, or don't cut PS2 just make it so that they can't get the expansion unless you play on PC or 360 (I'd do away with 360 entirely, I can't stand consoles for online gaming other than FPS, 360 has enough issues already).
I'm probably pissing off half the player base saying screw 360, but I don't care, its the truth, you'd be holding the game back too if SE had cut PS2 a few years ago.

Except the community reps have already said that the PS2 does not stand in the way of new expansions or new stories. New monster-types have been added to voidwatch (mantis, harpy, and the six-armed skeleton thing), so the PS2 isn't the issue there either. The issue is the willingness on the part of SE to actually want to put some creative effort into this game to make new expansions, stories, monsters for FFXI. That's not going to happen unless/until FFXIV irrevocably fails. I don't expect anything big to be added to this game until version 2.0 comes out and the verdict comes in on whether people will actually come back and if it's a game worth playing.

[Karbuncle]

Think I'm going to go ahead and Bump this wonderful thread to say I'm pretty much about done with this game now.

0/I lost count after 300 on Toci's/Mekira. I'm tired of the Voidwatch System, I'm tired of getting Chakrams and Mantis Eyes, which I've probably gotten 30+ of. I'm tired of Stupid gimps going 1/2 or 1/1 on the above mentioned bodies, Let alone the ones who can't even use them.

That combined with the direction the new events are taken (Bad drop rates, Random Number Generator, Etc), And the direction the Dev team is starting to take (back to ignoring us, not listening, continuing with their "Vision" regardless of complaints, You know, the entire Reason FFXIV Crashed?)

this game is just getting disappointing. I mean, I know some people love going back to artificial challenge and dumb restrictions on content clearly meant to bottleneck it a bit longer... But I think I'm just getting too old to want to Sodomize myself for the next piece of E-peen armor.

Straw that broke the camels back pretty much...

When my Account runs out of Crysta, I doubt i'll Fill it back up...