The OFFICIAL "I intend on Quitting, and here is why" Thread

[Tamoa]

There are somethings I believe we can place the blame squarely on Square. But for the most part? I think you can blame your fellow players.

I don't get how my fellow players can be blamed for jobs being nerfed. I don't see how they can be blamed for voidwatch - which could be a great event but has the most stupid and aggravating reward system ever (and the promised "fix" to it is stupid too, whoever thought up that idea can stick it where the sun doesn't shine). I don't see how they can be blamed for idiotic empyrean/mythic/relic trials (some more idiotic than others). I also don't see how they can be blamed for neo-nyzul - another random and luck based event.

[Trisscar]

I don't get how my fellow players can be blamed for jobs being nerfed.

really, you don't see how? Who exploited BST to death to get what they wanted? Your fellow players. Who griped and complained and kvetched about it to the point that Square decided to nerf it? Your fellow players.

I don't see how they can be blamed for voidwatch - which could be a great event but has the most stupid and aggravating reward system ever (and the promised "fix" to it is stupid too, whoever thought up that idea can stick it where the sun doesn't shine).

Sure the reward system on LW is entirely Square's fault, but who are the ones who keep on plugging away at it in hopes that they might just might 'get lucky'? Your fellow players.

I don't see how they can be blamed for idiotic empyrean/mythic/relic trials (some more idiotic than others). I also don't see how they can be blamed for neo-nyzul - another random and luck based event.

If you can get people interested in going to the events then there's no reason why you can't get it done. But who was it that lost interest in the events and abandoned those events in the first place? Your fellow players.

[Tamoa]

really, you don't see how? Who exploited BST to death to get what they wanted? Your fellow players. Who griped and complained and kvetched about it to the point that Square decided to nerf it? Your fellow players.

If that is the real reason to the bst nerf - which I really doubt - there has been suggestions made on how to ease the congestion on certain mobs at certain times of the Vana'diel day in dynamis. And bst isn't the only job that's been nerfed.

Sure the reward system on LW is entirely Square's fault, but who are the ones who keep on plugging away at it in hopes that they might just might 'get lucky'? Your fellow players.

Oh, so if people stop doing voidwatch that'll solve the whole issue? I think not. Besides voidwatch isn't a bad event at all, and for a lot of people all SE had to do was to stop the same ra/ex item loading in someone's chest if they already have it.

If you can get people interested in going to the events then there's no reason why you can't get it done. But who was it that lost interest in the events and abandoned those events in the first place? Your fellow players.

You're contradicting yourself as far as empyrean trials go. In your words, people should stop doing voidwatch hoping to get lucky drop wise. But to be able to finish a level 95 and level 99 empyrean weapon, you actually need for people to do that exact event. As for relic trial - before people knew about the level 99 relic trial, he was barely being killed because it's too much of a hassle for pretty shitty drops.

[Trisscar]

If that is the real reason to the bst nerf - which I really doubt

I doubt that's the full reason too, but you can't deny that it isn't at least partially the reason for it.

there has been suggestions made on how to ease the congestion on certain mobs at certain times of the Vana'diel day in dynamis.

I happen to agree that they shouldn't be nerfing jobs. There are a dozen things they can do make things more equatable, however I still feel that you are forgetting the player responsibility in all this that cause Square to act.

And bst isn't the only job that's been nerfed.

No, it is not. I been around for the DRG, RNG, BLU and 2H nerfs. And those are just the ones I can recall off hand. But the BST, WAR and MNK nerfs are the most recent. Again I happen to agree that 'nerfing' ought be removed from their vocabulary, but you can't go forgetting that it's in response to something the players do.

Oh, so if people stop doing voidwatch that'll solve the whole issue?

Won't solve the issue, no. But I knew when I first heard about LW that there would initially be problems so I shied away from it instead of jumping all over it. I currently only go with my shell when I go. Saves me half the headache associated with LW watch and I get to laugh about receiving logs instead of getting frustrated with it.

You're contradicting yourself as far as empyrean trials go. In your words, people should stop doing voidwatch hoping to get lucky drop wise. But to be able to finish a level 95 and level 99 empyrean weapon, you actually need for people to do that exact event.

I'm not currently on level 90 Almace, but if I were I would be organizing raids on the ones that drop pouches at a decent rate.

As for relic trial - before people knew about the level 99 relic trial, he was barely being killed because it's too much of a hassle for pretty shitty drops.

I assume you are talking about Arch Dynamis Lord here. Doesn't he spawn in Dynamis Xarcabard (Dynamis being one of those events everyone just up and abandoned for something new)?